Berns Fernand

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Hey everyone! I am new to permaculture in the sense that I haven't actually done many projects. I have a good basic understanding of the main concepts and have read the main bodies of work that propagate those ideas. I acquired a bit of land (10 acres to be exact) and will be transforming it (on a budget of course) into a productive place. I love this site because it brings together individuals like myself that lack application knowledge with those who are doing it in real life. I look forward to gleaning even more knowledge than I already have now that I finally decided to become a member. Glad to be apart of the awesome people who populate this site! Thanks

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Please let me know how I can access the permaculture voices conference that I paid for at the beginning of the year. Thanks for your help
Hello everyone, I just wanted to touch base with you guys and share some updated photos of the first part on the fence project that has been completed. I used all three methods that were proposed in the above Forum posts Including the laser level, the string method, and the compass method. The laser level got me very close While using the compass to guide the aiming of the straight laser line. The string was used as A quality control check since I was a first time laser level user for that kind of project. I got my neighbor out there once I determined the path for the T posts and H braces and we both agreed upon the placement. I'll be going back out again in a few days to complete a section or two and will be sure to update you with more pictures as a project comes along further. Thanks again for all the support you guys have provided on this awesome forum!
9 years ago

Jack Edmondson wrote:Okay. The map is perfect. It has all you need on it.

From the chart in the left margin you know the fence line, L49, runs from South to East at an angle of 59 degrees on your compass dial. Depending on how precise your instrument is, it further breaks the degrees down to minutes and seconds (fractions of a degree.) 31 minutes 44 seconds. Your compass will not be that accurate, but perhaps a gps would be? Survey's equipment is obviously very precise.

So standing by the country road 479, look North towards the gravel drive and the other end of the fence line. (the two ponds should be on your left.) Looking down at the flat compass in front of you, point the d.o.g. or direction of go from the video, at the far end of your line. Rotate the dial until the floating needle is inside the red 'dog house' on the base plate. The dial or bezel on the compass should read 59 degrees (+/- 2 degrees.) The compass will get you close, but even a small rate of error over 1000 feet will put you off your line. I would place flags along a line you establish with the compass.



Brilliant Mr Edmondson! I am still little unclear on the degree bit. Are you saying if I keep with the same degree and direction of travel, that I should be able to establish a straight line walking in the DOG and flagging off every so often? I also forgot to tell you, technically the L50 line is my side of the property, but Im not sure that makes it any different...

In short I think I understand the concept your conveying but am not fully confident as of yet that I understand the application of the concept for the purpose of making the straight line. (Forgive me for the ignorance that was passed down to me by my unknowing parents!)

Im sure you can clarify, and appreciate the info you have given thus far! (very practical)

9 years ago

Eugene Howard wrote:What type of fence are you building? Wood? Wire?

The guy who said to set the corners then stretch a tight wire between them was right. When I would do it, I'd stretch the wire with a tractor if need be to tension it enough, but was using a heavy gauge barbed wire or Number 9 smooth wire. Lift it and drop the taught wire a few times and it will work itself dead straight. A tight wire isn't going to bubble, sag or move around on you like string would. Tension it up straight and set your line posts touching it. If you can't connect the wire the entire way, and you have 1,000 feet between your corners, a set of brace posts halfway is only 500 feet apart. Tension your wire to those. Before you go farther than setting your line posts, go back and sight down them. If any one of them is the least bit out of line, move it. Shouldn't be if you set each post next to your tight wire. Also sight down them to make sure the top of each line post is set to the same depth. The only thing worse than a fence that isn't dead straight is one that jogs up and down. Ground varies, but the tops of the posts should not, except to make a very gentle sweep to follow the contour. There is a vinyl fence I drive by every day and they didn't do this. They set each post exactly the same depth, such that the top of the fence bounces up and down and it looks hideous.

Also, before you build this fence, you may want to inform your neighbor and get him involved to help you lay it out. You don't want him coming around after the fact telling you it is in the wrong place. Fence laws vary, but in some places, tradition has it that two neighbors are to share the cost of building a fence and in maintaining it. As you stand on your property and view the fence, your half is on the right. But don't take that as gospel......traditions vary. And don't assume he will pay for half the cost, even though he benefits from it as much as you do. Some neighbors are like that.

Edited to include this: Building a property line fence is not something you rush into. Location matters. Imagine if the fence bubbles onto your property 5 or 10 feet, or on to his. If on his you are claiming and using his property as your own. If on you, you are doing the same for him. In most jurisdictions, there are not well understood laws regarding claims of ownership over boundary disputes and putting fences in the wrong place is often the cause of the dispute. Take the time to get it right!



Hey Eugene,

Thanks for the advice! My neighbor and I are working together on this fence and sharing the cost as well. As far as the using the string of wire, I thought about it, but the distance kind of turned me off to this method. Plus I spent 400 bucks on a laser so I am hoping I can use that for this project... if not I will be sending it back. I will do my best to make the 47" woven horse fence as ascetically pleasing as possible while still keeping it effective in what it is supposed to do. Ill keep you guys posted with some picks after my Sunday session out there to let you know what progress I made with what method.

Thanks again for chiming in!
9 years ago

David Spohn wrote:My curiosity got the better of me and I had to look it up because I work with a level similar to yours quite frequently.

It does work on it's side! (Or I guess technically, it's back.) That's how you get vertical functions, which should also work for shooting a straight line. Perhaps even better, it has a "line" function and a "point" function, so you should be golden. There are more details in the manual, which is available at homedepot.com among other places.



Hey David! Its my first time working with a laser level like this and it is a bit intimidating to say the least. I think the laser is over kill for this job after considering all the great advice I got on the matter. I may send it back that is unless you could fill me in on some other permaculture projects it may come in handy for (also building projects such as a mid sized home in the future)

I read the manual and the rotating head can be made to sit still, but when in the point mode the receiver does not work and therefor you are left with out an accuracy indicator. So that was a big disappointment to me as I was messing with it last night. I look forward to possible justifications of keeping it so fill me on because as I said, Ive never used, nor known anyone who knew how to use this piece of equipment.

Thanks!
9 years ago
Wow! Great advice guys! I attached the survey of the plot.

- The line of sight was covered by trees but I have removed them and cleared the line. With my scope I should be able to sight it fine.

- The compass video was great! I will go buy one and use the line method when placing my tripod legs and positioning the level.

- I will have a buddy helping me out and could use him. However I am still unclear about how to make the laser level I bought point in one direction. I guess it will be a trail and error type of deal.

If there is any more videos on using and understanding the compass that you would recommend, I would certainly appreciate it. (Literally never used a compass as sad as that is)

I will take some pictures for you guys when I go out there on Sunday so you can see my travail.

Thanks for the guidance!

Berns Fernand
9 years ago
Thanks so much for the quick replies!

As far as seeing from one end to the other, no, there is to much grade variation to see straight across. That's the part that I am clueless about getting around! Maybe use my rifle scope and I might be able to sight it that way... Im just not sure how I would point the laser level on that exact marker in order to get the straight line where I need it. Again I have never used a transit level before and the videos Ive seen certainly do not answer my questions! (Which is why Ive come here)

As far as using the compass to find true north, is there simple video you would direct me to where I could learn to do that? I have never used a compass before (grew up in the city with google maps on my phone) so I don't know the first thing about using a compass.

I bought the laser level so I could avoid the toil that comes with the string and wire method (even though I used the string method on the 500ft fence) given the length of the fence I need to construct. With the model of laser level I bought, and being that it is a rotational, could I still use it to set a straight line?

Thanks for the correspondence!
9 years ago
Hey everybody!

So I have to build a fence which is 1000ft in length, straight, and a decent amount of variation between the two ends. The main question I have is: How do I use the Bosch GRL 240 laser level to make a straight fence line? I have searched and searched online and have yet to find a straight forward tutorial on how to use this pricey piece of equipment I have recently purchased. The string method did not seem viable due to the amount of distance, and the continual wind coming from the south, so I broke down and bought this level. I am scheduled to start flagging the fence line this Sunday, and could really use some help on how to make use of this level to help make it straight!

Thanks for your help in advance

Sincerely
Berns Fernand
9 years ago
Ok that sounds good! My question is, I opened the air tight jars I stored the brine in last night and it smelled kind of funky... And there was a white film at the bottom. Does that disqualify this brine from the category of edibility?
9 years ago
What to do with the left over brine? I usually have a large amount of brine left over with the precious Himalayan sea salt I use and hate wasting it... can it be stored for the next batch?

PS... Im new at ferments... and this forum.

Thanks
9 years ago