Andrew Barney

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There is a new plant breeding forum for those who didn't know. It is being hosted and supported by OSSI.

http://opensourceplantbreeding.org/

Lauren Ritz wrote:An update, of a sort. I think this may also be a response to stress. As it cools off, several of my watermelons that had normal flowers earlier in the season are starting to do the perfect flower thing. One has both normal female flowers and perfect flowers at the same time.



Yeah that sounds more like it. I figured it was probably environmental somehow. Probably nothing you need to really worry about.  If You are worried about genetic diversity you can always add more new seed in periodically. That's kinda what i've done with mine.
I also use the "right before a rainstorm or snowstorm technique". Almost all my garden vegetables are direct seeded, except for tomatoes and maybe squash. Even my watermelons are direct seeded. I don't pre-soak my seeds either.  I just find the appropriate planting date combined with upcoming weather information and plant them. Usually hand watering with a garden hose gets them to sprout in about 3 weeks time.

The only exception to this are carrots. Ive given up on planting carrot seeds as they never germinate.  Instead i sprinkle them on top of the soil in late fall or early spring/late winter.  They seem to sprout and grow great that way!

Late March for peas.  April 1st for most everything else.  Watermelons / squash about may 1st or may 10th because that's usually when we get a rainstorm and out last frost date is supposed to be may 20th. Since They don't grow for another 2-3 weeks anyway they are fine under ground.
4 months ago
Nice idea, interesting to see your bee hive experiments.  Have you thought about trying the hollow log bee hives? I guess harvesting honey would be tougher,  but it would be closer to how honey bees would build a hive in the wild.

I seem remember that honey bees prefer one specific type of tree to build nests in, because those types of trees grow certain types of mushrooms,  of which the bees need to develop healthy immune systems. It was probably a Paul Staments video.  Paul Stamets website sells "Myco-Honey", honey infused with mushrooms that help fight viruses. I think it's meant for feeding bees, but i kinda want some myco honey for myself lol.
Im Not sure if I've put my thoughts into coherent words that I've shared all in one place,  but i have a theory of sorts that not just S. Chilense can be used as a bridge species.  I think others like pennellii might also work and other F1 or F2 hybrids as their genetics is already really crazy that they seem like they have greater potential to give or accept pollen from or to sources that wouldn't necessarily accept it. Even More so if you had some F1 species from one group crossing with F1 crosses of other species.

That Interesting plant in my garden that is most likely from natural direct seeded fruits from last year (mother is either pimpinellifolium or cheesmaniae) seems to be showing green striped fruits like habrochiates. It is possible it got crossed by bees with joseph's [F2/F3 fern x hab.]

I'm Not sure what you mean by the goldilocks zone haha,  but if your referring to the (-5 days) method of pollinating inmature flowers to try and bypass any incompatibilities, you May need to use some oil to get the pollen to stick. Out of MANY hand pollinations this winter with that F2 pennellii, and some attempting cutting the stigma/style shorter for domestic pollen to reach the ovaries just in case,  i had About 4 fruits develop.  But i lost them when i planted it out.

William Schlegel wrote:On the wild note a red partially eaten Penellii X domestic greeted me on my return home and I got about twenty seeds from it.



Yeah,  that red one sounds interesting. How does it taste? Maybe you should save it or a cutting?
William, if you want the 10 seeds i got from TGRC for "Long John" mutant,  you can have them.  It's the same basic mutation as pear, but another one for extra long.  Very weird.  I think it would be interesting crossed to one of those "stuffing tomato" mutants.

William Schlegel wrote:

Andrew Barney wrote:Homegrown Goodness seems to be down.

Regardless,  William, did i tell you i in fact had some volunteer tomatoes this year that self seeded from last year.  They are flowering and fruiting now.  Im interested to see what i get. It will be a surprise.

One of the cheesmaniae or pimpinellifolium that self seeded in the spot where the pimpinellifolium / peruvianum was growing last year looks like it May have a purple stripe on it! I wonder if it got bee crossed with peruvianum! Neither have stripes!

.. let me see if i can link the photo. . Be back soon!

EDIT:

20180828_195032 by Andrew Barney, on Flickr



Interesting! Looks like a interspecies hybrid of some kind! How far away was the habrochaites also? When you say neither have stripes do you mean the two possible mothers you listed?



The Hab. was pretty close also,  maybe 2 feet away.  They're was also an F2 or F3 from Joseph that was [fern x hab.] About 5 feet away,  also with closed flowers.

Yes both possible mothers have tiny closed flowers and no stripes.  Only tiny red or tiny yellow tomatoes.  So this is unexpected and exciting!
This tomato self seeded in the area that the pimpinellifolium / peruvianum plants were growing last year. It is also near the patch of cheesmanaie plants i planted from seed. Regardless it appears to be a cheesmaniae or pimp. tomato plant, BUT it looks like the fruit has stripes like peruvianum or habrochiates! Perhaps a bee pollinated hybrid?!


20180828_195032 by Andrew Barney, on Flickr
5 months ago