Dave Bennett wrote:
Robert Ray wrote:
For those of you interested in humanure, composting toilets, urine diversion.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=human-urine-is-an-effective-fertilizer
My old toilet looks just like that. Hopefully the property manager won't ever discover that some of the compost I give him for his flower beds is partially composted humanure.
Catherine Windrose wrote:If you don't mind learning a different operating system, I suggest Linux Mint 18.3.
There are so many benefits over MS that it's hard to know where to start. Though really that is determined by what is important to you. Time, simplicity, and nosiness are my pet peeves, and where MS fails most by comparison, imo.
Since you have two laptops to work with, you could give Linux a try on one. If this is a consideration, you can find details at https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=248 for Mate. There are other editions though I've found Mate to be most appealing. Maybe you know someone local who uses Linux who can discuss it with you?
Linux OSs are free, open source, and have become so 'made for anyone' that the learning curve is next to nothing. A friend who is not at all computer or internet savvy was actually excited after using the Mate desktop interface on my laptop. More so after I installed it on hers because Office Libre converts Microsoft Office products. MS subscriptions can be optional unless you're tied to using those products. She said that was helpful with homeschooling. Her laptop is about 7 years old and now it moves like a kid again :.) (Mine is so old there is no bluetooth! About 8-ish years old with the hard drive signalling it's close to done. Still the Linux OS works like a champ.) Her kids love it and have since learned more about Linux than I have during the past 10-ish years ^.^
GIMP is way cool and comes free with the standard install. It's a slimmed version of Adobe Photoshop. There's thousands of free apps, games for kids (not all junk), and educational tutorials for typing, math, etcetera. I used the Tux math tutorials to help with saggy math skills. The Software Manager allows searching for and installing free open source apps, so there is no need to be concerned with anything other than installing apps for your Linux version. It works or it doesn't. Super easy install / uninstall with the Software Manager.
Windows is so slow on older computer models. Tweaking can alleviate that but if a reinstall becomes necessary then all that tweaking has to be done again and those instructions become quickly outdated. Cortana... ugh.
If you know how to partition drives, you can multi boot to use both OSs. I use a thumb drive to download the OS install. This allows viewing prior to install and without obligation of any kind, because it's all on the thumb drive. If you don't want it, just remove the thumb drive and reformat for other use. If you do, select install and follow directions. Easy as eating pie![]()
Just remembered one thing that could slow things up some, not terribly so. These days UEFI (interferes with installing other OSs) is a factor and dealt with according to the model. The steps are simple if sometimes long-ish. This is for computers on which Windows was 'factory installed'. Afterward you can install nearly anything you want in the future and be almost 100% MS free. Or completely if, like me, you avoid MS junk at all costsIt's been easy enough to do that.
There is also an app called WINE that liaisons between Windows and Linux apps. It's not an emulator, rather a kind of virtual sandbox environment for apps to sit in without touching the Linux OS. There is a sentiment that MS does not cooperate sufficiently to allow WINE to work with more apps, though some users say WINE is worth the bother specific to their needs. That's a toss up for me. Haven't needed it.
All in all, about the same amount of time is spent including circumvention of UEFI to prepare for a Linux OS install. Unless you're a developer, in which case there are probably all manner of fun tweaky things to do :.)
John Suavecito wrote:Yes, pretty funny. Now that I know I 'm ok.
Check out the other threads in this forum. They're all there.
John S
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