Mart Hale

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I like this Pelter style steam generator  much better......    

I saw this design used with solar...      This got me to wondering what if we were to combine it to a batch box rocket stove....     He is not getting much watts out for the design, but  having two outlets for steam does look to be safer than other steam designs I have seen.        

Steam burns are no fun, but used with care one could design that out of the equation.

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Tess Misch wrote:Mart, LOVE this!! Aanndd you can re-use the cups over again, I would assume. Collecting the plant containers can take a bit of time, but a quick buy of solos and storing them over off season is a win-win. Awesome!! Cabbage is one of my go to foods year round, I can't wait to have a place to start my own permaparadise! ---Tess

And....   you can easily take the plant out of the cup and put it into another cup to give away....

I have been thinking about improvements:

1) Switch to EPDM pond liner  to remove plastic.
2) replace cups with clay pots to also remove plastic

I am most thankful for people who share their ideas on youtube as open source ideas sure enriches the world and others can build on those ideas to even make them better.

I found this video and I decided to do the same thing only with solo cups.       I had such good success that I am expanding the setup..




The results were I grew some of the best cabbage starter plants I have ever done, as well as a couple pepper plants.    I love set and forget it systems, this is one that intend to keep multiplying.  

I used to have the same problem when I was in Indiana...

Solution,   move to Florida ;-)      I get far more sunny days here.

Other options  increase the angle higher helps, but you don't get as much out of the panel....

Curtis Stone on youtube offgrid sweeps his panels on a regular basis up in Cananda.

William Bronson wrote: Is the fiberglass you references supplanting mixed in for crack resistance or separate as a layer for of insulation?

I wonder if guar gum, psyllium husk, or ground flax/chia seeds could substitute for  xanthan.

I was thinking the insulation between inner and outer barrels....      I would guess it would depend on how hot one fires the rocket oven as the heat would crack the aircreate...     Fiberglass is good up to about 1000 deg and would be lighter and no cracking...      But always fun to think about possibilities...

William Bronson wrote: One bag of cement, one bottle of detergent and the bag of xanth gum makes a lot more than one block.
The other blocks you mention are not available locally for me.

I don't think I would use it as mortar, but using it as filler in a conventional block or even a stud wall is very appealing.
Using it as  insulation behind  a hard firebrick  hot face also seems promising.

I fear even the closed cell version would soak up too much water to be a good outdoor wall cladding, but it were sealed, maybe it would work.

What got my interest was the testing against foam board......            some ideas come to mind.

1)   how about we modify the rocket  pizza oven to air create  from fiberglass....    

2)   what about building an ice house  with this as the insulation .....

3)    What if this was the outer layer on cobb oven?   The insulation should hold heat nicely....

4)    Sand battery,    use this to hold heat.....


I have already built a foam generator.....     so I don't see the great advantage of using the  xanthum gum   instead of building the foam generator...   Yes you don't have to generate the foam, but on the other hand you are paying for the Xanthum gum,  which i have found it pretty expensive at least where I buy it.

I am wondering  can this replace rockwool....

I have already chopped up lots of styro foam....      I think it would be interesting to build boxes  one made with this mixture and compare it to regular air crete to see if one has better insulative values than the other...

I am thinking build   a 6 inch box mould,   then put in a  cup of ice and see which one melts first..

The old timers would put seeds on top of a hot compost heap to keep seeds warm.


If you have wood chips dumped at your location putting the seeds on top of that pile  can keep them warm.

Mike Barkley wrote:Mine is the medium sized one. The stainless steel version. It holds 1/2 gallon if overfilled slightly more than it should be. I can't send a video because I'm not going to make a youtube or vimeo account.

Ok that explains why yours is faster,    I have the basecamp model 6 1/2 cups.

Mike Barkley wrote:Mine boils water in about 4 minutes. The trick is to use the right tinder to get that beast flaming fast & hot.

You can't cook in them but you can cook ON them. They now have some nice accessories that allows that. I think they might be new since this thread first posted. Here it is ... Kelly Kettle info.

I would like to see a video of that...

What sized is your KK?