Danilo Chilene

Hi Eric and Dave,

Thanks for the support and information.

Yeah, trees would def shade the veggies in the future, I think I can separate one side of the fence veggies and another for trees.
About the climate zone here is CFB, the sun is very strong in the summer, we got some heavy rains but they don't cause a lot of damage. Not very long dry season and we don't have water issues, we have plenty. The slope goes from south to north.

I think maybe two trees with the veggies and the rest over the other side of the fence to not cast too much shade.

Thanks!

Hello Permies,

I'm working on my first garden so ever, already read some Permaculture books and I'm going to try this summer to build a garden with some fruit trees.
The area that I'm working in is 15x5m with a little slope, good drainage, plenty of water and I have some big trees near that make some shade in the winter(Brazil here, Sao Paulo). I will use gravel and wood chips, there already some plants there, like garlic, papaya, cabbages, and chives all around.

My concern is if space is enough for trees or would I need to go over the *fence*, if you see the pictures I have more space after a fence, I could move it.

In attach my plan, please take a look and let me know what you guys think.

PS: Added more photos to give an idea of the place.

Best Regards,

Danilo