tuffy monteverdi

Love loquats.
A great choice for so many reasons - both human and animal.
They get absolutely decimated by livestock and they (leaves) are very nutritious. But they do grow back quickly. We love ours.

Our experience with growing from seed is they are very hardy this way. However they take a LONG time to grow up and set fruit.
They are also susceptible to Fireblight.

Dale Hodgins wrote: …Bay laurel produces more mild leaves when they are trimmed like a hedge and constantly regrowing. The trimmings from a hedge like this would be suitable as a supplement for many types of livestock..

FYI (I know the post I’m responding to is quite old, but this is important):

I don’t know if you’re referring to Greek Bay Laurel (Laurel nobilis) or the common Bay Laurel/ “Cherry Laurel) (Prunus spp) - but both are toxic to livestock. Especially the Cherry Laurel type, which is loaded with cyanide.
The Greek / culinary variety is less so, but ruminants don’t like it either for more than a nibble here or there. Most leave it completely alone as the toxic compounds are easily smelled.

So neither would not be a good *forageable* evergreen hedge. Though for humans, the Greek bay laurel is super delicious as culinary herb, fast growing, supremely drought tolerant, and grows LARGE, quickly!! It’s a beautiful tree too, that cares not a whit re frequent pruning. I love ours.
In fire prone climates though, the Greek Bay is not a good choice as it is very oily, and could start and maintain a giant fire as a hedge.

For the Wheaton labs fence site soil (described on this thread as dry and rocky) and the zone 5b climate zone, perhaps Jujube might be an interesting choice. They don’t need water, grow fast, like sandy soil (any soil really), produce a more than respectable tasty fruit also with medicinal qualities, has nice large thorns, fixes nitrogen(though not in the common way of legumes), and is good (but not extremely tasty) animal forage as well. They are persistent, easy to grow and spreading as well.
There are more cold tolerant varieties to the already low zone 5 growing zone. But still the first year or two might benefit from a bit of protection in that climate until well established.

Khara Phetteplace wrote:My go to for paths in my upstate NY property is sand.

I like to save my wood chips for my compost piles & gardens. I found, altho wood chips compost down to improve the soil, on my steep pathways, it becomes slippery when wet.

100%
Those are our issues too👍

Decomposed granite, laid down thick, pressed, and maybe even with a little resin mixed in.
This kind of path won’t sink, or degrade or compost; allows shoes/boots/wheels/strollers/sticks to travel on path without sinking on or getting stuck.
Yet water still soaks in.
It’s a great path to have along food forests or hedgerows for harvesting, planting or weeding.
It’s more permanent, but not completely permanent, as cement or asphalt would be; and anyone can use it easily.

r ransom wrote: My grandparents bought a house on the main road.  Distance is difficult when one is a kid.  3.5 to 4 driveway width distance from heavy traffic

The developer made a sideways driveway parallel to the road for about 5 houses, then between that and the road, built a berm and massive hedge. You wouldn't know there was a main road there.

In Tokyo, I visited a garden.  Tokyo is LOUD.  But as soon as I entered the garden, all the noise stopped.  Completely. No traffic, no nothing.   It was like the scary feeling of being in the forest and suddenly the birds are quiet.  

That is fascinating re grandparents!
I’d love to know exactly how this was set up and hedge/tree species etc!!

A book could be written very profitably about those kinds of solutions, in my opinion!

I’d also love to know how the Tokyo garden achieved this!
This kind of info could make many of our living experiences in this world SO much better!

Please do elaborate if you have more info🙏

1st: I make sure everything on that phone is backed up somewhere. If not to a cloud server, then to an external hard drive, nightly.

2nd: I make sure its password protected, so if someone steals it, or finds it, the phone cannot be entered.

3rd: there is an app automatically on iPhones called “Find My Phone” that allows location of your phone to show up on a digital map on someone else’s device.
It requires Location Services to be turned on 24/7 though (which I don’t like, and hence I don’t use this feature).
But if you’re losing your phone a lot, that’s another good option.

4th: you can put a tracker chip on your phone (perhaps inside the phone cover?) - but it would require another device to show the location.