Dorothy Pohorelow

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My "not hot" hot peppers got planted near the end of March and are doing well but I forgot my sweet peppers until last week...  oops!  We will see if I end up bringing them inside like last year at the end of the season.  
I am actually pleased with how well the pepper seedlings are doing this year as normally I have horrid luck with them.
3 days ago

Jen Fulkerson wrote:Dan I really like my raised bed hugel beets.  They have been working quite well for me. Maybe because most aren't raised very high, and they have all the good stuff in the ground???  That being said I'm going to add a bunch of ollas, and PVC pipe next to my more thirsty plants.  The ollas to keep consistent water. Last year I used a PVC pipe for a stake for my zucchini. Since it was there I filled it when I watered. I have never had a healthier more productive zucchini. So I'm going to try it with my tomatoes, and experimente with a few others.  It's a catch 22. I hate to use plastic in my garden. At the same time I work full time, have chickens, dogs, cats and other interests. So even though I love my garden, and actually enjoy watering, spending hours after work everyday in the summer can be a bit much, so it may be worth a compromise.



I like that idea.  Trying to get water to the bottom of a big squash plant can be hard if you don't have a drip system (more plastic).  AND our city is already talking watering schedules and water rationing for this summer...  I can imagine planting a PVC "stake" near each of my squash plants as I plant them and using that for their watering.  A shorter metal pipe that is shaded by the plant could work also I bet but you would to make sure it doesn't get hot enough to scorch/fry your plants.  
1 week ago
Bush beans as pole beans bear too late for a good harvest...
2 weeks ago

Diane Legacy wrote:

Dorothy Pohorelow wrote:The best way to keep squash pure is to plant different species.  



Interesting! So I have zucchini and spaghetti squash, heirloom seed, and I want to preserve the heirloom heritage because of it's taste! A heirloom tomato, for example, tastes sooo much better than a cross breed you can find just about anywhere.
So where would one go to see if something will cross pollinate? This will be my first attempt, and I too read that you need humongous space so things don't cross pollinate. I thought that might be just to discourage the home gardner from saving seed so they would have to buy lol



This thread will help some maxmi, moschata, pepo  But generally if you use it in the summer while it is unripe it is a Pepo. There are some exceptions like Tromboncino which is a Moschata.  Acorn and Spaghetti are also Pepo so your Spaghetti and your zucchini can cross.    
Here is another source for the information on squash List of gourds and squashes

And yes you do need lots of space between the two squashes as they are insect pollinated but growing them is separate parts of the yard like one in front and one in back will limit cross pollinating between them.  Of course I know of at least one person who is actually working with a zuc x spaghetti cross to make better tasting spaghetti squash that can also be used green. The person talks about it in the Going to Seed forum
We are going to see if a Grocery Row Garden will fit in my small space in the back I used to use as a square foot garden.   I was very intrigued by the videos by David the Good about this planting method so bought his book and reading it just made me want to try this method even more...  next week we will lay out the new garden and decide how we are going to treat this weedy area.  It should be interesting
3 weeks ago
The best way to keep squash pure is to plant different species.  For instance I will be growing a Pepo summer squash landrace AND a Maxima winter squash.  I can plant them next to each other and not worry about separation distances since the two species rarely cross.
MOST tomatoes are highly resistant to cross pollinating due to the design of their flowers.
Beans and peas are also know to be resistant to cross pollinating due to their flower design

This means you can raise these vegetables and save seeds from them with very little chance of your seed being crossed.

Now if you want to raise yellow crookneck and zucchini your squash will likely cross as both are Pepo.  The same hold true for zucchini and acorn squash.   The take away here is that you need to know your squash species.

Rachel Lindsay wrote:

Sounds like fun--good luck!

I see from your signature line that wind may be an issue for your garden--it might be helpful to check on strategies for planting windbreaks to shelter your garden. I recall a chapter in "Building a Better World in Your Backyard" (by Paul Wheaton) mentioning his advice to someone dealing with high winds out West.

Best wishes--keep us updated!



Wind is always a factor here but the area I am going to use has a 6 ft privacy fence on two sides, a stone house right on our lot line on the third side but is open to the west except for a wire fence so is fairly protected.   Another "benefit" of the area is that if we keep the fruit trees below 6 ft they will be invisible from the alley or main road unless someone is really looking for them.   One of the downsides of living in in town is the desire to keep some of our food producing areas hidden.  That little area is only about 21 by 21 so it will be a small garden but anything is better then nothing.
4 weeks ago
I stumbled across Grocery Row Gardening by David The Good last night and suddenly I am looking at this badge with a whole new set of eyes...    I suddenly think I may be able to do this.  While he talks about tilling the whole area before laying out the garden he also mentions sheet mulching an area for the garden which would work both for the area I am eyeing AND for this badge...  And all the rest of making the garden and caring for it fits in very nicely with the badge bit.    
4 weeks ago
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I stumbled across the video yesterday and suddenly visions of fruit trees in the back yard started to pop into my head.  A quick trip to Amazon got me a Kindle copy of the book and I spent the night reading it and watching and rewatching the few videos...   This morning I informed my husband that we are doing this in the back yard garden...  today starts my hunt for suitable trees and berry bushes for my location.  Serviceberries are at the top of my list and I am off to research golden currents, native black currents and native plums.  I am looking forward to this version of a Permie adventure on my tiny city lot.
4 weeks ago

Mike Haasl wrote:Ahh, thanks!  I hadn't precisely read Dorothy's proposed cultivars because my mind prematurely wandered to all the possible issues related to the word "species".



This is actually why I asked my question.  There are so many things we grow that could end up being confusing when it comes to species.  Squash is one of them but Kale also has two species called kale and they cross with different things in the garden...  Greens are so mixed up I would simply say I planted a blend of greens and leave it at that.  Beans are normally one species (Phaseolus vulgaris) including what some folks call runner beans but I also have a small patch of true runner beans which are (Phaseolus coccineus)  so I could call them two species but I simply list them as beans in my garden...

And yes there was a reason I identified the species of squash I plan on growing not just saying winter squash and summer squash as Acorn squash ais a winter squash that is the same species of most summer squash ie a Pepo.  While Tromboncino is grown as a summer squash but is the same species as butternut winter squash...  
1 month ago
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