Anisia Seeruttun

Hi Matt Mill, thank you, you're right it can fruit the same year, that's why I'm worried. Normally in summer, in the months January to April, we should get more rain but this year is completely different. I'll keep on watering all the 3 shrubs in that case.

Yes Henry, I see few bees in early morning, more paper wasps however in winter I can see more butterflies and moths than in summer. I've not noticed cat wee smell from my elderflowers, they do have a nice floral almost perfume scent when the flowers are just opening in full sun, then not a distinct smell when they are drying, however I do smell some kind of cat's pee from my neighbor's shrub which is S, Nigra. It could be the reason of lack of insects. I'll try the brush method for pollination, good idea, thank you.

I still believe it's lack of rain as well as Matt Mill has stated. I have to keep on watering.

HI Henry, I would really wish that is true unfortunately I've observed and found the flowers dried and fell from the cluster, no berries are formed sadly only 3 to 4. See the attached picture, I just took a picture, it's already dark night. When the flowers are dried and I try to shake it, the dried flowers fall. It seems not enough strength which could be the shrub is too young, it's first time, since 3 months all my 3 shrubs are blooming. Also could be a lack of rain as well as not enough pollination. I'll grow more perennial plants to attract insects.

Oops sorry, I think I've posted same thing several times, got an issue with my browser 🤔

Thanks a lot Nancy for explaining the difference between variety and specie. Yes, I got confused and wrongly understood. I can't wait to see berries, I'm wondering can I use the elderflowers until next year? I'm hoping I can see the berries next year. I grow them mainly because of the berries.

I'll keep watering everyday, I remember once it was raining heavily for 3 days then saw one cluster with a bit more berries (see third attachment) lol that time I should understand the importance of moist soil. But still l guess this is less than a normal one.

My shrubs have grown and became bushy, I just cut few branches same for 1 of my Mulberry.  Also I noticed I made a big mistake, 1 Mulberry and 1 Elderberry are planted too closer, these 2 are growing higher than the rest and spreading like crazy. (see first 2 attachments) I'm worried, it's too late they're too big to transplant now. However my 2 other Elderberry shrubs and 2 Mulberry trees have good distances between each other.

Today I just spotted a new Mulberry which 3 months ago I've only pocked a 9 cm cutting in the soil of my backyard, I'm surprised it's thriving also I can feel the roots. (last attachment)

You're right for the elderberries once the roots will be well established, propably will not need that much water. I just hope so.

I'll update if any chance I'm seeing berries 🙏❤️

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HI Nancy, thank you so much for replying. Since how long are they blooming, was it recent? Did you propagate by cuttings or seeds? I've heard seeds can take 3 years and cuttings 2 years to set fruits.
Yes, my neighbor has a different variety, he has Sambucus Nigra and I have Sambucus Canadensis.
He doesn't need any other variety, he has only this one. It is giving lots of berries. Both our yards are quite near.
However my 3 Elderberry shrubs (S. Canadensis) which I have cloned from a mature belongs to a friend who stays a road next to me, she has only 1 variety. She told me that she gets more berries in winter than in summer.
See screenshot in attachment, I joined a group expert (Elderberry World) on Facebook where the admin Charlie Little who mentioned that it depends on any plant who attract insects for pollination. Also my local agricultural centers said it's a myth to depend on other variety for cross pollination, it's much more because of lack of rain that is not enough water to produce berries.
I've been told that it can take 1 more year to set berries, I think I must water everyday since it rarely rain these months.
It's been 3 months, my first blooms of Elderberry, could it be too soon to see berries? I'm also propagating S. Nigra from my neighbor's shrub by cuttings.
I'm sad, I wanted my 3 shrubs to fruit, I hope they'll make it.
My 3 mulberry trees (2 Morus Nigra and 1 hybrid) which I have propagated by cuttings (clone) set lots of mulberries after 1½ year, I was worried before same as I'm for my Elderberry shrubs, however I'm happy to see all my 3 Mulberry trees are bearing lots of fruit.
I hope it'll be same for my Elderberry, in winter I see more butterflies than in summer seasons.
Some say it depends on different varieties however I don't think it's really true.

I'm from Mauritius hot tropical Island in the southern hemisphere where it never snow. We have only summer and (not too cold) winter. It's been a year I've successfully cloned my 3 Elderberry shrubs from a mature Elderberry shrub.

Now it's been 3 months that I'm getting lots of blooms from them but then the flowers dried out and died. I see only 3 to 4 berries on each cluster.

Could it be too soon to see the elderberries?

My neighbor very close to my house has an other variety mature Elderberry which means they can cross pollinate. However I've heard that it's a myth, Elders don't need cross pollination to fruit.

Please help me, thank you.

Anisia