Eli Meyer

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2 days ago I covered the drainage pipe and started applying insulation. Bit puzzled at the sequence of operations regarding construction of the manifold and the clay-perlite insulation. The perlite is quite fragile, some tends to fall off as I apply it and spills on the ground. Maybe I didn't use enough clay in the mix or it's not damp enough.

Particularly for the heat riser and manifold I think I will set up a protective cage of 1/4" hardware cloth that I can fill in from the top with the perlite. Dry stacked bricks for the "shell" around the feed tube/burn tunnel that would also be packed with perlite, eyeballed a roughly 2" gap.

Yesterday I cut the top out of one of my barrels and did a test fit. And also the dry stacked the manifold bricks, along with a 6" air duct tee. Using all my cored bricks here, as I'd think the holes would help slightly with insulation value. Will need a lot of mortar for the manifold plinth as some of the gaps are quite large. The horizontal output of the tee will be my cleanout port and the vertical will go directly to the exhaust stack.

Next I'll mortar the manifold bricks, the barrel will be resting on them and sealed with a thick layer of mortar... then can test fire!!

Curious to see what kind of exhaust temps I'll see, maybe could also have some heat exchange by wrapping copper tubing on the outside of the 6" vertical flue pipe, maybe wrap insulation around that. Might not stick another coil inside the pipe as it'd restrict flow...
11 months ago
I've been reading about rocket heaters for the past few years and got sick of dreaming about them, so I decided to go ahead and do one. I bought Ernie & Erica Wisner's book the RMH Builder's Guide and have been primarily using that as a reference. I'm temporarily unemployed (funemployed) so have time to focus on this uninterrupted for a good stretch.

So this has been more of a build-design than a design-build project. I.e. I'm improvising as I go along and learning a lot in the process, it's great. I'm mostly copying one of the sample layouts from the Wisner book and adapting it to the materials I have readily available. So I built a 6" J-tube outside. It's a prototype I don't intend to last forever, so it's relatively unprotected from weather, I'm fine with that for now. If it rains and I still haven't built a protective structure around or over it I'll throw a tarp over it (or just let the rain dissolve the mortar). Longer term I want to build one inside the house for space heating. And my house already has hydronic heating, so the long term goal is a rocket heater that can both warm the living room directly and send heating hot water to more distant rooms. Shorter term goal.... maybe a hillbilly hot-tub! So I'm prototyping heating a large amount of water with this thing, we'll see how far I get.

First off I bought a load of bricks. Regular red building bricks. 250 to be exact, used ones of various dimensions found on facebook marketplace. Advertised at $0.50/brick, I got mine at $.40 each. Don't know if that's a good price for used bricks. If I was to get more I'd try and pay less for the uneven ones. Some of my load are nice and flat with very even dimensions and straight corners, others less so.

I'm mining some red clay from just behind the house and mixing that up into clay slip, for mortar and stabilizing the perlite insulation. I have some fairly pure deposits of red clay on my property, hardly any silt or sand in it that I can tell. So unfortunately I've been needing to import sand for the mortar and whatnot. My learnings indicate the 'sharp' edged sand locks together firmly and will resist the natural shrink/swell tendencies of many clays. Some friends of mine in the area with a background in geology and clay minerology have advised me that "Clays in your area tend to be locally high shrink swell".

After soaking and screening some of my local red clay, and mixing it with some Quickcrete playbox sand (eyeballed the ratio, probably somewhere around 1:3 clay:sand by volume), it worked acceptably as a brick mortar.



The combustion core not only survived without any cracks or leaks overnight through a freeze/thaw cycle but also through an extended test firing the next day for several hours in which surface brick temperatures likely exceeded 300 deg F. Exhaust temperatures unknown, maxed out my digital meat thermometer at 482 deg F. Quite pleased with the initial test firing, I probably had too much fun just watching/listening to the thing burn and feeding it twigs.


Next step is to build a box of some sort and pack insulation around the combustion core and existing chimney. The insulation will be horticultural perlite stabilized with the locally harvested clay slip.

I just bought 2 used 55 gallon steel barrels. I think I'll use one of them as your typical RMH 'bell'. Unfortunately they're the tight-head variety i.e. no removable lid so I'll have to cut the top out and will be raising the thing above the heat riser whenever maintenance or inspection is needed. Couldn't source a clamp-lid barrel locally. So before or while I add the insulation I'll probably also build the manifold, probably in the form of a brick plinth with lots of clay/sand mortar to seal it all together.

After this is achieved work on constructing the heat exchanger will commence. If I could have found a steel tank of the right diameter (30 gallon drum would work) I'd have liked to have an annular flow heat exchanger, i.e. 30 gallon welded inside the 55 gallon, forming a water jacket with the exhaust gasses downdrafting like a typical RMH.

But right now it feels easier to do something like, line the inside of the 55 gallon bell with a coil of copper tubing that will have water recirculating. Designing such a coil that will passively thermo-siphon to an accumulator tank will be an interesting challenge.
Realistically I am probably going to just put the barrel over it and might put a big pot of water on top before doing that, to test and play around. Maybe stick a smaller coil in the flue pipe downstream of the manifold.
I'll post some concept drawings later before I build anything with plumbing.

And for anyone tempted to post the typical 'boom squish' warning, you're not going to tell me anything I don't already know. I've done a fair amount of reading and research and have a background as a mechanical engineer so I'm pretty confident I do more dangerous things than this on a regular basis (driving my car, dangling on ropes dozens to hundreds of feet in the air)

Spend so far has been $292.95 including a few tools. $253.12 just in materials.

MaterialQuantityCostSupplier
Assorted red clay builders bricks, used250$100Facebook Marketplace
Perlite4.27 ft^3$48.63Local hardware store / Feed & Seed
Playbox sand4.5 ft^3$54.49Lowes
Tight-head steel 55 gal drums, used2$50Facebook Marketplace


Likely a local landscape supply company would be better price than buying sand at $6 per 50 lb bag.

Things I'm unsure about:

  • What if anything to do about a rain-protective coating on the outside of the combustion unit. A portland cement based stucco would work I suppose but I want this installation to be possible to break down easily and recycle the materials. Could build a framed roof over it but that sounds like too much work right now. Unsure if lime mortar (instead of clay sand mortar) or a lime render over cob would work as a relatively weather proof finish.


  • I have a bag of "High-calcium hydrated lime" in powdered form, unsure if it's the type suitable for lime mortar or render. The bag says "Minimum calcium oxide 71.5%".


  • I have lots of wood ashes from my wood stove. Probably over 100 lbs. Very curious how this could be used as an ingredient along with my clay in mortar, cob, or plaster. Some initial reading suggests it behaves more as additional aggregate than anything else, maybe could replace some of the sand I've been needing to buy?


  • Thanks for reading. Suggestions comments or feedback on my unsure-of list welcome.

    (I'm trying to post pictures as well)
    11 months ago
    Hi,

    I'm also considering a job change and I've put some serious thought into "freelance gardening" as a paying gig so this post got my attention.

    For much of 2020 I was unemployed and bored so I posted on NextDoor offering to do casual gardening and yardwork for folks. Planting flower bulbs, raking leaves and weeding flower beds for folks for not-very-much an hour. I could have charged more. Wasn't ever a serious operation as I was on unemployment so earning enough to support myself wasn't really the point. I don't think I'd do that again, at least not the leaf-raking jobs.

    I've been fortunate enough in late 2020 I was able to land a job which allowed me to purchase a small home on 1 acre of land on the outskirts of my town. Also allowed me to purchase some equipment and indulge in the habit of permaculture gardening. Specifically, I got a Grillo walk-behind tractor and some implements, primarily to use for myself to develop my own gardening/small-scale-ag projects. About a year and a half ago I did actually load the tractor and some implements into the bed of my pickup truck, hauled them out to a customer's property and plowed up a maybe 3,000 or 4,000 sqft garden plot. Grossed slightly more than $200 for half a day's work. Did the same as a favor to a friend who was trying to establish a wildflower meadow over his septic drainfield, didn't charge him. I see the particular equipment I already had as a somewhat unique offering that fills a niche in the market, i.e. it's suitable for a particular scale of project that other businesses don't serve well. For instance, a landowner may want to hire out plowing and seeding 1000 sqft for a garden or meadow. The established landscaping firms might have a minimum price of let's say $3000 for any reseeding job, perhaps they wouldn't take it at all. I.e. they want enough of a project they can haul their equipment out and have a full day's work for 2 workers. In that situation someone like me could come in and do that project for significantly less.

    More perspective - my partner over the summer worked for a small landscaping design+build firm. They specialize in residential ornamental plantings, typically native plants, as well as regular maintenance (weeding and mulching). And do some small scale grading projects. So not an army of guys with string trimmers and zero-turn mowers, they don't do 'lawn care'. But it's still low wage work, the owners of that business don't make a lot.
    The town is fairly progressive and hosts a large university so it's sort of an island of blue in a sea of red. If you catch my drift. So I think the local residential landscaping market is more receptive of permaculturey styles than the surrounding region. Even so there's a lot of the typical overengineered American lawns and the industry that pushes and supports them, moreso the further away you go. So if I wanted to earn a buck mowing lawns, I definitely could, but I'm just not interested in that. The more interesting work, with a higher skill/knowledge floor, is still relatively niche so I have my doubts there would be enough demand there to support a full-time income.

    Anyway, my advice to you would be to have an idea of what people are willing to pay for vs. doing it themselves and work to identify a niche in the market that you think you can fill better than the existing competition. For myself this started when I tried to hire out a plowing project to start my garden and couldn't find anyone that could do what I was asking for (that's why I bought the Grillo). So I reason there must be other people like me out there. Of course I must acknowledge I'm fairly unusual so must be realistic about this.
    1 year ago
    Bought a small house on 1 acre just outside Blacksburg, VA early this year and have been tinkering.
    Built a raised bed, cardboard beds, and most of all, bought a Grillo walk-behind tractor and some implements so I could plow up the old pasture sod and plant green manure cover crops -  


    Also keeping a few chickens for eggs and have been trying to raise meat rabbits - got my 2nd litter just this past weekend!

    Long term ambitions are to eventually acquire more land, learn natural building techniques and create more Human habitat - perhaps live in or start an intentional community.
    And find a long term partner to share this lifestyle with. Fortunate that I've gotten as far as I have and am only 25. So have a long ways to go yet.

    I am very fortunate to have found a job with the local university that pays well enough that I can afford to own property, buy materials/equipment, and still have free time to tinker, socialize and play with other hobbies.

    Specifically looking to connect with other permies in the Appalachian region - glad I found this forum, wish I had years ago!

    Cheers
    3 years ago