Jyn Meyer

Thank you Jane!

I’ve found some more information and because I’m sure I’m not the only one who will be looking for this, I’ll document it and update in my original post as I go.

In Oregon (nw) there seems to be few sources for the sand. I was told there may be one in Vancouver, Wa across the border but I did find a source of quartz from a pool and spa supply company that uses it as a pool filter. It’s $17 for a 50lb sack.

I also found a very helpful UK video ( https://www.mikewye.co.uk/guidesheets/tadelakt-application-maintenance/)  on how to apply it. They do have their own premix- I did email them to ask if they ship to the US or if they would kindly tell me what else I would need to add to my lime putty to achieve similar results.

We bought a bunch of 50lb sacks of Type-S hydrated Lime from Home Depot and mixed them into buckets with water to help cure already.

The Tadelakt tutorial suggest using a fiberglass mesh to help with shrinkage so I have to source that.

I am planning on ordering some Kiss-My-Face soap as was suggested by a plasterer.

I broke my back a few weeks ago painting so my husband is probably not going to let me on a ladder anytime soon- and I need to get with it!

That solves somewhat my Tadalakt issue- for my landing I am considering using the lime putty and sand- I just don’t know if I need to use Portland cement or not?

Hi Anne!

So, my situation is quite different than Cobb because we aren’t using a cobb but an internal lime plaster smooth effect from materials they used to be made of and the soap is particular for the Tadelakt. I have found that KissMyFace soap is a great alternative, but I would like to find out why?

My issues mainly are finding the right sand and even if I need sand for the main room!

I have talked to some plasterers locally and sand suppliers and… it’s very sad, really. The plasterer I talked to said he didn’t ever put sand in his mixes. 👀

The sand supplier mostly said they don’t offer unwashed limestone sand for lime plaster… and didn’t even direct me to where I might find it.

Everywhere I go and research people say,” Add this kind of sand…” (of none I can find sources in Portland, Oregon) “… and use this kind of lime…” (off which I found one resource for it). Or they say, “Buy *OUR* brand -it’s the best- and has everything added already it’s only $150 for a 25lb bag!!!”

And here I am sitting in my new bathroom with greenboard walls begging for a covering feeling frustrated.

Anne Miller wrote:Here are some threads about olive oil soap:

https://permies.com/t/125303/personal-care/purity/Sources-Beginning-Soapmakers

https://permies.com/t/48586/Soap-making-oils-choose

Some threads about lime:

https://permies.com/t/166230/Interior-walls

https://permies.com/t/152582/Lime-plaster-questions

https://permies.com/t/170071/ideas-renovating-house-mediterranean-homesteading

I hope these will help answer your questions.

Hi all!

We recently purchased the house we had been renting for 6 years and I am attempting to turn my 70’s build into an old French country style home. I want to let these walls breathe and work like the farm we have!

I caught onto this forum through a thread here on covering latex walls to lime plaster but the poster seems to no longer be participating and I am left with so many questions mid-process!

First of all- We live in the pacific NW on a farm with 9 kids. We’re not rich, we are huge DIYers and we’re more or less into self sufficiency.

I am not looking for companies who offer a 30lb bag of premix lime plaster for $120- I am looking for ways to inexpensively mix our own lime plaster.

The problem I have encountered is the vast array of opinions on what to use. Some people say use Portland cement, some people say use sand- others brick dust and others ash.

In the thread here on converting latex walls to lime, he doesn’t mention the use of sand in the lime mix and just used lime and joint compound over the prepared wall-but I’m beginning to wonder if he used a Limestrong mix that had added sand?

I have my type S hydrated lime, I have my joint compound I just need to know if I have to use sand and which kind I should use and from where? Home Depot has all sorts of bags of things.

I also am looking to do a tadelakt system in our bathroom and I was hoping someone has an actual olive oil soap recipe I could use to make my own oil soap?

The Limestrong company has a lot of non- natural sealers etc, which is not how it’s done historically.

I’ve been browsing all the lime topics here but everything seems to round back to the same issues I’ve been having finding a natural recipe for lime plaster that can go over my prepared gypsum walls.

-Jyn

Glenn Herbert wrote:Hi Jyn, welcome to Permies!
Bill Bradbury isn't around any more, but I hope someone else with professional knowledge will step in to help.

Oh no!

Does anyone else have experience with this? This is literally the only information I have been able to find on the internet about lime over existing latex gypsum walls.

-Jyn

First of all - thank you for this thread! No one has this information it seems! It’s what made me join this website! I’m sorry I’m advance for raising this thread from the grave but it’s so so important to me!

Second- I’ve done everything up to mixing my lime. I’ve scraped all the latex and first layer of paper (not all) off the drywall.

I have hydrated type s lime and compound.
But do I need sand? And if so what kind? You don’t mention sand in this thread but everyone else does.

Do I have to let the hydrated lime cure in a tub? It’s powdered type s lime not the other stuff. It’s all so confusing! I’m not using limesteong because it’s so expensive and we’re doing this on a budget.

Also can you tell me what the mix is for tadelakt for our bathroom over gypsum and greenboard?

Another tradesman said to use a bar of Kiss-my-face instead of buying the expensive black soap of which there seems to be no specific recomendation of type.

I wet my walls well then apply the lime mixture for my prepared gypsum walls right? Do I do the same for the tadelakt?

Thank you so much!!!