Elia Freeman

I encourage you to look at the link i sent previously regarding the "mining projects" their site "coincidentally" states
"The vast areas mapped naturally coincide with phenomena that also affect large areas of the territory, such as forest fires. To date, we are not aware of any direct causal relationship between these phenomena and extractive industry activities, nor of any statistical studies that suggest a correlation beyond mere coincidence. — September 17th 2024"

there is no secret that when people dont want to sell their properties, some fire "motivates" them to do so, forcing them to sell for pennies. Nothing new.

Areas covered in eucaliptus or large "mono cultures" bring pesticides that become airborn (ie Santarem, leiria for monocultures and Castelo branco area as part of the fire belt of eucaliptus plantations)

Much more expensive is Algarve..... Alentejo is an up and coming area, yet very infra developed and under populated, pesticide free...
I do agree with you there is land to be found cheaper, and you will find many expats flocking there..... i chose this area to avoid investing and losing all to fire.

I was under the impression you wanted to buy land and allow people to move in with their own home (bungalow or similar) i didnt get the impression you needed multiple ruins in one piece of land. Maybe you will find it. In Spain there are abandoned towns which might be cheaper and more convenient perhaps.

I wish you all the best on your search.

i dont get notified when people answer my posts.... what am i doing wrong ?

Luckily i noticed your answer.

Not sure if i can post this here but near where i live there are 6 hectares available for a reasonable price.
https://www.idealista.pt/en/imovel/34648394/
super close to the massive dam/lake.

then there are much much bigger lands available too.... so if your pocket is deep, this area might tickle your curiosity.
Mind the "fire belt" area in Portugal and double check "mining projects" ..... terrible "accidental fires" that devastated the THEN prime coastal areas (last summer).... It reminded me of Lahaina somehow...

you can drop me a line via telegram/signal or email if you prefer. Would be interesting to pick your brain a little.

edit  for your reference this one is also one of my close by "neighbours" selling their property. This one is awesome if you have the cash to splash. they were called "restautante dos avestruces" it was a restaurant i am told but has been shut a few years since the "RONA"
https://www.idealista.pt/en/imovel/33932161/
https://miningwatch.pt/mapadominerio/index.en.html

Here we are 2026.... time flies when you are having fun😁

Despite the keen interest of the potential buyers it would seem their conditional sale of their property had not yet come to fruition.... so it is just fair to update this post and see what happens.  

I am open to long term rent, sale or land share.
Located by the biggest lake in western Europe away from the fire belt or "mining" prospect areas that have recently triggered so many "accidental fires".

All in all, a quiet, nature filled, simple living area, perfect for couples.


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https://miningwatch.pt/mapadominerio/index.en.html
"The vast areas mapped naturally coincide with phenomena that also affect large areas of the territory, such as forest fires. To date, we are not aware of any direct causal relationship between these phenomena and extractive industry activities, nor of any statistical studies that suggest a correlation beyond mere coincidence. — September 17th 2024"

all a coincidence, fires and mining 😉

Hi Pascal,
which area are you looking at?
Have you considered Alentejo by the "big lake"?

Good day Andrey,
Moving to Portugal from Ukraine I see, I wonder why Portugal?

I am assuming you traveling by yourself, there are plenty of communities in Portugal. Not sure what exactly you might have in mind.
Maybe this site might help
https://www.agartha.one/map

It has a list of some communities.

I have no idea how to attach pictures in this forum but drop me a line on my email if you curious. laneta.laneta.100@protonmail.com

Here is just me and my 4 legged fur baby in rural inland Portugal. Has a wonderful lake and fresh water beaches but is not a touristy spot or expat place, locals here are 65+ and the most entertaining thing to do is to listen to the birds chirp. No community or hang out spots with a tribe unless you go spend some time down the bar with the granpas.😁

2 hr drive from Lisbon.
I wish you find what you are looking for.
E.

Sounds amazing!! Good luck to you guys. You forgot to say WHERE you guys are and HOW to contact you. You might want to leave your number or email.
Please treat us with some more pix of your progress, i find those most inspiring.
Blessings
E.

Thanks Paolo,
Will check it out.

I am still stucked in Portugal as the potential buyers are still struggling to line up their ducks (or maybe I did jinx myself after all?)😓😓

Asuncion for what i gather is a hot spot for anglo-expats (aka higher prices and much applied so called "gringo tax")

I hear Encarnacion is perhaps a better option? (Argentinian, Brazilian, latino crowd, aka "cheaper", more peaceful, but also less entertainment options)

I wonder what you meant by "mixed feelings"? As a developing nation for sure it has a number of challenges.... have you lived in places like that before? Do you speak the local language? (usually makes you less of a target)

Thanks for the lead.
🙏 E.

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Paolo Camilleri wrote:I had mixed feelings on my first visit to Paraguay, that being said only spent one month in Asuncion, not the rest of the country.

Peter from this youtube channel has a small hotel downtown, it was a safe haven for me in the city.  

https://www.youtube.com/@starting-over-2025/videos

He is also working on getting his ecahli project off the ground sometime soon.

Hope this is helpful.

How interesting you mention oaks.
I was walking my dog yesterday and I noticed an increasing number of oak trees are dying in my area for no apparent reason. Not just one or 2 or 4..... I spotted a dozen or more that  were relatively big trees all brown, broken and brown or "browing" at the crown.... other surrounding trees looked fine....
I approached one of them and noticed the leaves had some "hard lumps" that were not typical from the leaf, like little pimples.
Anybody has any idea what that is?

I wonder if
Moringa
Bread fruit
would grow in the South of Portugal?? 🤔
They are my 2 absolute favourites

I guess this forum has less reach than i thought "sigh"
Here is a self conversation between me, myself and youtube🤪
https://youtu.be/XVN88Tv-ER0

Either way, chilling in Portugal is not so bad after all.
Peace