tittiger Hatfield

Hi grandma!

All septic systems  that I am aware of have leech fields.  You pump out your tank to prevent the solids from building up and getting into the leech field drain tiles. If this happens you then must dig up and replace your leech field.  Make sure this expensive mistake does not happen to you.

Some in our area have what are called sewage ponds or lagoons and I am personally a big fan of them due to their simple nature, low cost, and almost total lack of maintainance.  That is usually cutting trees from around the edge of it due to the high fertility and the water there. 

You could also have another type of system that I am not aware of.

I agree that regardless of the efficacy - that the composting idea is probably the the best idea if you are going to take these drugs.

I am not an expert in this field but I would not be surprised if some things did not break down nor surprised of other compounds
did make it to the aquifer.  After all even the water companies do not seem able to filter them from the municipal water supplies.


For myself the answer I came up with long, long ago was not to take any of the poisons distributed by the allopathic<sp> witch doctors. There is almost always a  nutritional approach that cures conditions that does not involve taking drugs to cover up and mask symptoms. I do this to protect my body not the water supply but I guess that is an added benefit. 

Good for you grandma for looking into getting off of these poisons!

I am curious Grandma as to where these meds do end up?  Perhaps in the community drinking  water?
Even in a septic filed  might they not end up in the aquifer?

Can you win for losing? Inquiring minds want to know!   

I have listened to the podcast and am not sure in my mind what y'all consider a paddock system.

I am picturing a portable coop to protect from predators, a place for nests, a place to water and feed that
is moved between paddocks much like strip grazing with cattle.


It sounds a lot like what the French are doing with their Label Rouge poultry certification does it not?


Could you have the chickens follow your cattle strip grazing by a few days?

"considering how we are running out of space overground" 

Not anywhere that I have seen. Unless you mean the cities but they are a small small part of the planet.    Putting that aside the main reason for underground living IMOO remains saving energy. LOTS of energy! 

Just amazed that there is such a mucha-do about nothing.  Americans are a very strange people it the larger view of things.


What I personally find  even more  perplexing is why any sane person  insists on going inside, wasting a few gallons of water, mixing it with toxic chemicals that others pour down the drain, spending all sorts of energy at a so called sewage plant to make it all better again, then use much gasoline to truck this now toxic sludge and spread it on fields of vegetables and on top of all of this having to pay a sewage bill for this whole abomination.

Is any part of this process even close to being sane? 

Hi!  I apologize if this has been covered but I could not see a way to search just this post for the  terms I was looking for.

One thing that came to mind that I did not see covered was what did Mike O. do to prevent termites?

I saw the post about using a certain grit sand and also thought that in some manner DE if it could be put in the right places would be a good deterrent. 

Lastly when I lived in Fl and was researching this I was led to spraying a  Borate solution  http://www.life123.com/question/What-Is-Borate   on every piece of dry lumber before it was installed.  Borate is used as a food additive in some countries and is safe it seems. Also boric acid from my experience is the best thing in the world to kill roaches.

I hope I have given you a starting point as I am hoping to benefit from this discussion also and build a small shelter myself here in a few months.

Blessings
Joe in Missouri