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Mulch and Mulching is a very large topic, let alone the diversity of soil amendments needed in different climates. I haul such materials for a living here in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado mostly. My walking floor trailer (pushes the material by itself out on the ground) hold 150 to 155 cubic yards of material, depending on the weight. The Truck and Trailer empty is around 38,000 lbs, and I can haul on secondary road up to 92,000 lbs. Depending how wet the material or composted is (how much soil content) it will dictate how much I haul. I work for sawmills hauling sawdust, wood chips (mostly Playground chips for schools), however, I can get wasted piles from these mills for free, and currently having 2500 sq. ft. of greenhouses at the farm, where I run loads when I am going home empty.

Yes, there is a chance of fire hazard (if it does you have to have a large water hose or truck and equipment to lay it out and water it down) with adding water to a pile and turning it, but it is required if you want to acceleration the compost process. Taking a 18" temperature probe is needed to monitor that it is not getting to hot, killing the needed enzymes and burning the material, while if it is to cold, nothing is composting. You have to check the ph of the soil if you want to dial in your results. (Old Farmer Almanac http://www.almanac.com/plant-ph) Enzymes accelerate the needed chemical reactions. We also have bought red wigglers worms by the thousands to also help us in the past. We have Jersey Cow and Chickens currently, that provide much of the fertilizer needed to make a really good soil amendment.

We have made different mixes to make it more tailored to the plant's needs, for example: Strawberries need acidic base and lettuces need a alkaline base. So more green chips works better for the first and very rotted material work better for the latter, even mixing in gypsumite at times. As for the person above with the slug problem, Chicken and Guinea Foul love slugs, but only Guinea's can crack the snail shells. They love slugs and will turn the soil to get them, while fertilizing as they go.  They can do plant damage, so you have to take some care as to what they can get to fully.

Also, ungased city water is not good for worms, enzymes, some animals, and planets... just a few other things to think about. Making compost teas are good to feed during the season, when the plants are looking stressed. The bottom line, technology is not a bad thing if you use it with an eye focused upon natural organic processes, trials and error learning, and sustainability... Permiculture! We are looking to start doing some Aquaculture here in the next year or so, which is a whole other animal.

Shalom
1 year ago

Lisa Stanleyson wrote:I have been looking for a community to join or start I am open to location. I want to be located far west sides of OR or WA, ID, north UT and MT possibly southern Alberta.

You may want to look at the Western Slope of the Rockies. The factors for a Sustainable Permaculture EcoVillage with co-housing and intentional community aspirations are the length of the growing seasons, property elevation, annual rainfall, days of sunshine, soil quality, resources such as water rights and availability, zoning laws respecting alternative building methods and number of residences allowed, natural resources such as plentiful and readily available fire wood, with resources such as natural gas, grid power until alternative sources can match needs, city water for USDA Kitchens for cottage industries (Colo. just passed a few very favorable new laws). And local people that would support such a community, embracing it and even help.

Also, the need for some remoteness (only 2000 residence in our valley) from large man-made or natural threats: pandemics, tsunamis, volcanoes, earthquakes, forest fires, floods, invasion, insurrection, large populations, interstates highways, railroads, airports, military bases and ports. Yet the need to balance useful or needed infrastructures like medical clinics, dentist, fuel stations, hardware's, internet, cell service, land lines, grocery stores and needed shops. Still must be a small isolated area with plentiful fishing and hunting for the hard times, with infrastructure on the property for raising our own fish (Trout or bass) and domestic animals (Milk and beef cows, pigs, turkeys, geese, chicken, and rabbits). To extend the season, and have artificially environments to allow larger variates of food production and aquaponics (Tilapia- subtropical fish farming) by erecting high tunnels and greenhouses (we currently have 2500 sq. ft.).


What I would like to have or plan to have is the following:

40-200 ac to start (depending on funds) 70 Acres currently
Homesteads that range from 1 ac to 5 ac ruffly 200ft by 200ft lots = 40000 with an acre = 43,560
Eco homes ranging from traditional green homes to earthship ECT. I want a bermed earth home
A campground of sorts for Rvs, campers and mini homes permanent or not. Yes, we call them Micro Cabins when they have no foundations.
Activities for visitors other than just woofing, and educational activities. Ag-tourism, interns, CSA, and a community of gathered like-minded people
A community building w/ a kitchen, showers and restrooms We have the building, it needs setting, remodeled, and utilities installed
The rest of the land would be a Community land trust (open to suggestions on this) Have not decided yet as to how to establish this, the usage of common areas.
A community factory (does not need to be on site but within close range) this woulds give the community funds, jobs ECT. I am open to form of factory I have looked into hemp processing plants, ethonol (large scale) but even a composting plant would work. Hemp crops is a real possibility as legislation is being worked on here in Colorado. Farmer Markets, Festivals at Telluride, a CSA, and dozens of industries we want to approach like:

Here is an alphabetical list of the current projects Shiloh Springs is doing or industries we hope to start:

Ag-tourism – Touring our many industries, sharing what we believe and how others can do the same
Apis Mellifera – Raising Honey Bees for pollinators and for honey, wax, and other produces
Aquapontics – Tilapia in the greenhouses for selling fresh fish, fish jerky, and CSA Shares
Artisan Bakery – for community and selective produce to sell at the farmers markets
Bermed Earth Construction – Building homes partially or completely underground on the north side
Berry Projects – Blackberry, Raspberry, Gooseberry, Saskatoon Berry, Elderberry, and Currents
Cooperative Home School – Seems like a dream but we want to forge the way for this new concept
Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) – Selling shares in the Farm's seasonal harvests
Culinary Water System – Drinking water supply to community and to market, filtered Spring PH Water
Drip Irrigation Watering Systems – Water conservation and maximization of usage
Egg & Poultry – Egg Business for Community, Farmers Markets, and CSA, Poultry for Community
Ethanol Fuel – Renewable fuel for four stroke combustible engines, making E-Diesel, and CSA shares
Fish Farming – Renovate and restock the lower trout pond, as well as raising larger Crawdads
Green Building – Exploring and using ecologically sound and innovative building techniques
Greenhouses – Year round production of food and fish through Aquapontics (3000+ sq. ft. currently)
Hoop Houses & Cold Frames – Extend our season on cold-appropriate crops
Micro Brewery – Using our own Hops, Honey, and specialty crops grown for brewing
Milk Dairy – producing milk, yogurt, butter and soft and hard cheeses
Mushroom Mycology – Shroom Farming for edibles and Medicinal (non-narcotic) Mushrooms
Orchards – Apple, Plum, Apricot, Chinese Chest Nut, Mulberry, Jujube, Persimmon and other projects
Permaculture Inter-cropping – Development of mixed food, flower, and herbal perennial beds on land
Renewable Energy Projects – Net metering, Solar & Wind Power, and a Micro Hydro Power Plant
Solar Aquatic Waste Water Treatment Facility – Earth Systems being just one company name
Specialty Crops – Hops for brewing and selling, various Berry crops, and garlic
USDA Certified and Inspected Kitchen – For preparing food products to bring to market
Vermaculture – Worms for worm castings and the soil production and sale
Vineyards – Terracing our S/SW facing canyon acreage for table, raisin, and wine-making grapes
Winery – Making wine with specialty crops for sale and community use


Here is my elevator pitch it is a little "rainbows, flowers and butterflies"
An eco, permiculture, artisan village where everyone has a skill and specializing in something, whether it be chickens, cattle, farming the community property, teachers, child care or an herbalist. We would be able to be completely sustainable and off the grid if need be. Having a factory of sorts that will sustain the community outside in the "real world."
Today we have lost focus on what really matters. Our whole life revolves around money. If we created a community that works together, nobody has to do everything just have to participate for a more fulfilling natural life.

We agree, the wife is a professional portrait artist, who works in many mediums. She is also very good at wildlife artwork.
Here is our community mascot and jersey milk cow: A resent picture and the oil pastels painting the wife, Susan did last week...


http://s384.photobucket.com/user/Shiloh_Springs/media/Animals/DaiseyOriginalPhoto_1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

http://s384.photobucket.com/user/Shiloh_Springs/media/Animals/DaiseyInAHat_1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

We'll that is my elevator pitch. Here is little about me. My name is Lisa, I am Married with 5 older boys (13 and up). I am a Realtor,an out of the box thinker, problem solver. My husband would calls me a hippie, but I feel the need to be a part of a community that works together to create a better living environment for adults, children, animals and the earth. When I found permiculture I thought "this is it" I had tears watching Geoff Lawfton's into video 2-3 years ago.

Let me know if you are interested in helping start or be apart of this community.

To Paul, I don't know if this would fall into your plans for your area. I just started listing to your podcasts.

My elevator pitch... we are so busy working on getting the million of things that need doing here on the farm 'Shiloh Springs Sustainable EcoVillage' and Farm, that we have not done much over the years to really put ourselves out there. We see the prophesies of the end times in the daily headlines of the News Papers and feel a great need to do all we can do tol create the life were would prefer to live if we had forever. We hold the belief that we need to live more in harmony with the earth and the land (getting away from Monsanto who's actions for profits are nothing short of ecological terrorism and performed without a conscience. There goal in controlling the world foods source is in direct conflict with the freedom of biodiversity which the entire planets ecosystem is dependent upon!) and knowing that only the smart squirrels will survive (better), the coming hard times!

We are 35 miles from Utah (86 mi to Moab/Colorado river rafting to the west) Ski Resort (42 mi to Telluride to the east) Nearest large city is Grand Junction (120 mi to the north), and Montrose the County seat (72 mi to the northeast), and Cortez (105 mi. to the south.

If anyone is interested in finding out more, respond here or email shiloh_springs@yahoo.com, and we can visit by web, email or phone.

Shalom, Daved and Susan

5 years ago

Susannah Wells wrote:Hi there! What sort of candidates are you looking to receive for your project?



Sincere people who understand that building a sustainable lifestyle and community is a lot of work, but the rewards are found in the quality of life for ones self and family, the food we eat, the clean water we drink, and the clean air we breath. Getting back in touch with the growing of things, the raising of animals and the natural rhythms of life, allows us to see the creator in all that we are blessed with and is the joy or return we reap. Having ones own home with close friendship in a community of common-minded people who seek to build a similar lifestyle and community is the goal. These kinds of bonds of tribal living is what is missing in our society today. The power of united we stand and the synergy of many hands making ones work load light is just one of many rewards from communal living in an Intentional Community.

There are so many different directions one may chose to go, based upon ones talents, interest, community needs within the Ecovillage or without in the larger communities nearby. It is up to you to decide how you wish to support yourself and family. Here is a few possibilities:


Here is an alphabetical list of the current projects Shiloh Springs is doing or industries we hope to start:

Ag-tourism - Touring our many industries, sharing what we believe and how others can do the same

Apis Mellifera - Raising Honey Bees for particular traits and purposes, pollinators and honey

Aquapontics - Tilapia in the greenhouses for selling fresh fish, fish jerky, and CSA Shares

Artisan Bakery - for community and selective produce to sell at the farmers markets

Bermed Earth Construction - Building homes partially or completely underground on the north side

Berry Projects - Blackberry, Raspberry, Gooseberry, Saskatoon Berry, Elderberry, and Currents

Cooperative Home School - Seems like a dream but we want to forge the way for this new concept

Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) - Selling shares in the Farm's seasonal harvests

Culinary Water System - Drinking water supply to community and to market, filtered Spring PH Water

Drip Irrigation Watering Systems - Water conservation and maximization of usage

Egg & Poultry - Egg Business for Community, Farmers Markets, and CSA, Poultry for Community

Ethanol Fuel - Renewable fuel for four stroke combustible engines, making E-Diesel, and CSA shares

Fish Farming - Renovate and restock the lower trout pond, as well as raising larger Crawdads

Green Building - Exploring and using ecologically sound and innovative building techniques

Greenhouses - Year round production of food and fish through Aquapontics (3000+ sq. ft. currently)

Hoop Houses & Cold Frames - Extend our season on cold-appropriate crops

Micro Brewery - Using our own Hops, Honey, and specialty crops grown for brewing

Milk Dairy - producing milk, yogurt, butter and soft and hard cheeses

Mushroom Mycology - Shroom Farming for edibles and Medicinal (non-narcotic) Mushrooms

Orchards - Apple, Plum, Apricot, Chinese Chest Nut, Mulberry, Jujube, Persimmon and other projects

Permaculture Inter-cropping - Development of mixed food, flower, and herbal perennial beds on land

Renewable Energy Projects - Net metering, Solar & Wind Power, and a Micro Hydro Power Plant

Solar Aquatic Waste Water Treatment Facility - Earth Systems being just one company name

Specialty Crops - Hops for brewing and selling, various Berry crops, and garlic

USDA Certified and Inspected Kitchen - For preparing food products to bring to market

Vermaculture - Worms for worm castings and the soil production and sale

Vineyards - Terracing our south by southwest facing canyon acreage for table, raisin, and wine-making grapes

Winery - Making wine with specialty crops for sale and community use

You are only limited my your willingness to seek your own dreams and goals...

Shalom Susannah

JW
6 years ago
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Rebekah Moore wrote:
1 Yes
2 A few weeks
3 Were we live it is in the city by many other houses but we have plenty of supplies
4 Yes
5 Yes
6 No
7 Yes for water heat may be a problem our fire places don't put of much heat but we know a way to fix it
8 Oh yes plenty of all of them
9 not really no but we don't need any of those things very much. For example we have hand rubbing tools.
10 oh Yes



Well I would say you pass with a 65 to 66%. You have a 2 out of 3 percent chance. We only have a 3 out of 4 or 4 out of 5 at best, and we have spent years working on it. If we are really going to survive what is coming, we need to start working together as really functioning communities, that will go the extra mile for each other rather than the capitalism, socialism, or communism model. The Messiah told us how to do it, but we do not have enough faith in our fellow man to live such a law. It is a real pity, when were not going to taking any of this world's possessions with us that were not willing to share with one and other!

Shalom
7 years ago

Wesley johnsen wrote:now in these ecovillages and cohousing communities how does everyone have jobs if they are not all farmers?



Agency... if you have a business and wish to continue working in it, because you have your reasons, fine.

Wesley johnsen wrote:also i looked at the book creating cohousing but it seems that only one person does the csa farm or many people on the land run their own farm enterprises.



You cannot take peoples agency from them. We will work with those whom they want, in the different industries they think will be the most rewarding. For your information, one person could never run a CSA by themselves

Wesley johnsen wrote:what do you think of many private enterprises vs one where everyone in the community works in the one agriculture business?



To each there own... you might have one large Ag Business, and then others doing their own cottage industry. I have some friend who live in a community where they have a cabinet shop. It produces five complete kitchen cabinet sets a day. Many in the community members work there. They have outside employees who are members but do not live in the community. They have a large construction company that goes around the country building church buildings. And they have many many small businesses, as well as 1000 acres to plant and harvest.

Socialism DOES NOT WORK on any scale. If one's product or service begins to change, their market grows or shrinks, you have to adjust, or even close down that enterprise. Life is ever changing, it needs to keep up, and technology come with strings attached, cost, impact, different profit margins, and many other unforeseen things.

You try something... if it works, you continue. If not, you adapt, change direction, look at your options. This must be done individually as well as a company level or community.

Hope this helps, JW
7 years ago
Shalom, I am speaking for SHILOH SPRINGS...

Have you ever read, 'Creating a Life Together: Practical Tools to Grow Ecovillages and Intentional Communities' by Diana Leafe Christian http://www.amazon.com/dp/0865714711 We highly suggest those interested in joining a community, to read it to have a good idea of what a community should be, know the options of how it can be set up, so they know if they agree the path charted by the community they are considering joining is in line with their own ideas.

Many things we have adopted like vision and mission statements or types of memberships are posted on http://www.shilohspringsfarms.com/ . It was just recently posted so we need to do a lot of work on our website, but then this is the growing season, and it is taking most of our time.

We can legally place 21 homes on the property, but if we place Micro Cabins, then we may have even more. Room to grow... We have one home set, and two HUD approved single wides (1 three bedroom & 1 two bedroom homes) setting in the pasture waiting to be set.

What I am saying is this: there are Land Trusts, Non-profits, LLC's, condo/homeowner covenants/co-housings, and many different possibilities. And yes zoning is usually the largest obstical. However, it is not how you chose to unit, but your ability to deal with problems when they come up, and your ability to discern different (hard to deal with) personalities before you get involved with such people. And if not then afterwords, a process to work through such impasses to find harmony again. The goal here is not the same as society (babylon) or then why put yourself in such a position? There are great blessings for those who find such unity and friendship!

Shalom
7 years ago
This post was in response to a post or email I received that is no longer available...


NO I am not selling anything to anyone!
NO I am not telling you how to solve your unsustainable problem!

If you do not want to own a gun, by a wrist rocket, BB gun, cross bow, knife, or learn how to set snares. It is going to be your self-defense and your belly you are feeding, and your choice as to how you want to solve it. I said nothing about fear, you could have everything you need and still live in fear. You could also have nothing and have the faith everything is going to be alright in the end. Again, that is up to you.

I have had huge gardens and done lots of canning over the years, even meats. And I just know that if I had to live on only what I could grow, no seeds I could order, hay and grains I could bought, I would fair very poorly after a year or two.

I probably have a 70- 80 percent chance. I am concerned over the things I still need to do, but I have the faith that after I have done all that I can, Adonai will be there for me if required.

I do worry about some of the family and some of our friends who do not live close by or have not considered the importance of preparations for the possibility of real hard times.

Is this not what Sustainable Intentional Communities are all about?

Shalom

7 years ago
1 ) If there were no more grocery stores or economy, could you continue to feed yourself when your stores run out where you are?
2 ) If there were mobs, gangs, and marshal law, do you have what you need to defend yourself twenty-four hours a day, for months or years?
3 ) Is where you live out of the way, so as to not be forced to relocate, not have curfews, or riots that limit your ability to go get needed supplies?
4 ) If the water stopped coming out of the faucets, do you have access to an unlimited filtration systems for safe water supply to drink and for food production?
5 ) If the sewer stopped working, do you have an immediate access to a secondary sanitation system, and an ability to make soaps to sanitize and clean cloths?
6 ) If any of the systems: water, food or sanitation go off line, will your neighbors actions present a threat to your physical security or a sanitation threat to health?
7 ) If the power and or natural gas went off, would you still have water and a secondary heat source to keep from freezing, and one that will last for months or years?
8 ) Do you have adequate clothing, bedding, hygiene, and medical supplies and medicines & emergency supplies stored, and books or knowledge to get by?
9 ) Do you have a way of making fuel to run pumps, generators, tractors, washing machines or other needed equipment, and parts to keep them working?
10 ) Do you have enough people that you can trust with your life and the lives of your family, to watch your backside when there is little or no government?

The odds of you and your family making it in the coming crisis is 10% for every question you answer yes to. Do you really want to gamble with your families safety...
with odds like YOURS? There still is a little time to make better choices!

Shiloh
7 years ago
With all that is coming down the political and economic horizon, you would think it is a no brainer for people to start thinking about making some preparations. But whatever has happened to the salt of the earth people? We are from the Baby Boomers generation and I am not really speaking about them, yet I find many of them have lost the faith that, 'We can do that!' They are getting up there in years and they are just tired and not up for 'Another Adventure!' Too bad!

But what can I say about the later generations? Well, it involves work and self-discipline, dedication to a higher purpose then themselves, and because it is not handed to them on a platter, just for showing up, because feel they are entitled, well, most of them are not interested, and that go for family as well as friends... I think that generation's salt has lost its savor! That is not to say all it lost, but most of this generation will be...

So why am I posting an ad here then? In hopes of finding some rare individuals, that brake the mold, are worth their salt, and are, 'Up for an Adventure.'

It involves finding that joint dream of building something together... Many people who would consider doing such a thing, readily have a dream of doing it where they live, even though it is an impossibility under their local zoning laws and codes, and they lack of water or land resources needed to build something special there. To make things even more impossible, they are surrounded by to many people living in the center of a large city. This is plainly untenable with what is coming.

There is a balance that needs to be found. Living a lifestyle that you would choose to live even if nothing economically ever does happen (though with GMO's in our food supply now, its here). There needs to be a balance found between amenities and services needed now, verse remoteness and security from civil unrest if it arises in the future. Not living by railroads, major freeways, large airports, military bases, target zones, volcanoes, major earthquake faults, to close to the ocean, not in hurricane or tornado alley, and also not to far to the north nor south, and not to high or low in elevation. We do however live where wild fires could be a threat... good reason to build a bermed earth homes.

We feel we have found that balance. Thank you for listening to my little ranting, but in all seriousness, we are looking for people who want a lifestyle in an EcoVillage, raising our own food, and working together in a community. Here is the beginnings of our website we just started: www.shilohspringsfarms.com . Would love to here from you. shiloh_springs@yahoo.com .

Shalom, Daved and Susan
7 years ago
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We live in Redvale (actually by its boundaries), in what they call the West End of Montrose (the county seat is over a mountain range and requires you to drive through two other counties to get there). We live on a county road that is dirt but is only a quarter to a half mile either direction to the state highway, as our drive entrance is on the bend. We have never been snowed in even in a car with no snow tires. We have 1.5 meg internet connection, Natural gas and grid power. As for pictures, I found some we posted a few years ago on a blog we never really used: http://shiloh-springs.blogspot.com/
We have current pictures... we need to get our website up, and then post them
9 years ago