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Summary

Paul and Katie are walking again to the caldera.

Paul complains that people call him a snake oil salesman for his RMH stuff.

They talk about someone they call Waldo, who's maybe 21, has his own place, car, job etc. and is always broke. He likely spends $2000 a year on heat but that's just how the world works.  He's not going to hear what Paul says about some RMH making free heat.

Paul admits when he first heard about RMHs he thought it was bullshit, until he visited Ianto's place and saw one.  He feels the Waldo issue is the big problem with changing the world.  Katie points out you get born and raised in the system and it can be hard to see outside the system.  Another problem is knowing what information to trust.  

When it comes to wood stoves, Katie says, when you want a wood stove you go to the store or order it from a catalog.  People can't see themselves building a stove, so they don't take any time to think about that.  She feels there's a need for an easy step people can take within the system  For most people switching to a full home-built RMH is so big a step they can't imagine it and anyway their lives are all full with worky-work, kids, going out to the bar and so on, there's no room for a project like that.

Paul says there are starting to be pre-built RMHs which you can now buy but often they're compromised to meet the regulations and laws.

Last fall, Paul and Mud finished the heat infographic which was supposed to change things but not as many people looked at it.  Heat is among the biggest carbon footprint things in the world.  Katie admits when she first was listening to Paul's podcasts, she skipped the RMH ones simply because she couldn't see any way she'd make one so she didn't want to spend the time learning about it.


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