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Summary

part 2 of a 3 part podcast.

Paul continues the discussion about AI and college with Alan, Mike, Alexandra and Samantha.

Paul wants to see kids taught integrity and decency and for them to use AI to work wonders.  He's happy to see douchebags fail.

Alan disagrees.  The kids are not the problem and given the chance even the douchebags can be turned around with the right approach.  Alexandra agrees with Alan.  

There's been talk of trade schools.  Paul mentions that AI-driven robots are not that far away, which will potentially replace tradespeople.  

Alan sees the first autonomous robots being used in high-risk situations where a human worker wouldn't be safe. This might start coming out in the next few years.  

Paul asks about the ROI on spending 2 years in trade school.  Alan feels that's a more solid investment for the next few decades - it's lower debt and a more durable skill.  Mike says that there are also people getting on-the-job training for trades.  He feels robots doing trade work in the real world are a long way off.  Alexandra likes the prospect of trade school for her kids.  Samantha points out that it depends on what people are interested in.

Paul mentions Jacob Lund Fisker's book "Early Retirement Extreme" and "Mortgage Free" by Rob Roy, both of which advocate living humbly to save money and use the money thus saved to improve their lot.  Mike thinks if you can achieve owning a property debt-free it's definitely a good plan.  Paul feels the garden is a critical part to living humbly.  Alexandra points out that you can live humbly with a large garden yet still struggle for example to pay for the dentist.  It's a big transition for most people.  Paul agrees that it's not a quick fix: you need to work on it for a year or two.

Samantha has a teenage boy; she wants him to follow his passion and find a way to earn income doing what he likes. Her advice to someone thinking of college is to find things they can do which will make money, rather than getting into debt.

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