Missouri Department of Conservation

I can't find the post where someone said people from out of state could order trees from the Missouri Department of Conservation, but if someone could find it, I would like to thank them.  I ordered 200 Osage Orange trees, and they do indeed ship out of state.  I got 200 trees with shipping for right about $100.  I'm very happy to have found this out through the forum.  

https://permies.com/t/28896/Swale-berm-planting-suggestions#228118

Is this it?

Thanks for looking James.  The one I read was much more recent, just a couple of weeks ago.  My search-fu is failing me...  I ordered the trees the 31st of last month and I read the post about it just a day or two before that.

https://permies.com/t/133999/Planning-food-forest-black-walnut#1049422

Maybe it's this one?

While it's seeds vs trees, I did just get a pound of Osage Orange/Maclura pomifera seeds from https://sheffields.com/ for about $70. While it's up to me to stratify them and get that first year of growth, there's over 13,000 seeds per pound! This fall I plan to scoot on my butt around my property and plant them every 9 inches apart, which will be several thousand seeds and several days. I'll be happy if 10-20 make it, and should probably try the seedling route too if the seeds fail.

James Freyr wrote:https://permies.com/t/133999/Planning-food-forest-black-walnut#1049422

Maybe it's this one?

I think that is it.  Now I know who to send a PM to.  Thank you.

Mark Brunnr wrote: I'll be happy if 10-20 make it, and should probably try the seedling route too if the seeds fail.

Mark, when I plant them from seed, I get between 20 and 50% germination.  You should end up with a lot more than 20 trees :)  I wanted to buy some as seedlings because I'm building a fence line of them and I wanted it sooner than I could get with seeds, and at 50 cents a piece, it's worth it to save the time.  I do grow most of my trees from seed.  The living fence I am trying to build now will have a pretty thick row of Osage Orange in a line with the trees about 1 foot apart so I can weave them together.  15 or 20 feet in from that I'm working on a nice thick mixed-species hedge row.  That one will have mostly natives.  I have plenty of room so I want to keep adding to it until it is 50 feet or more thick.  It should create a huge amount of animal diversity there.  The first area I'm doing is a few hundred feet long, so this is definitely a long-term project.

There is a chance other states do this as well. When I lived in North Carolina, the forest service had a cost share program of some kind. They came to our farm and planted 1,000 trees along our pasture borders and it cost us next to nothing. We chose white pine that could be harvested and sold after 20 years, but we also had some mixed hardwoods planted in a riparian area to protect our stream. If I remember correctly, the hardwoods become eligible to harvest after 30-40 years. Check with your state's forest service. You may be pleasantly surprised!

Carol Denton wrote:There is a chance other states do this as well. When I lived in North Carolina, the forest service had a cost share program of some kind. They came to our farm and planted 1,000 trees along our pasture borders and it cost us next to nothing. We chose white pine that could be harvested and sold after 20 years, but we also had some mixed hardwoods planted in a riparian area to protect our stream. If I remember correctly, the hardwoods become eligible to harvest after 30-40 years. Check with your state's forest service. You may be pleasantly surprised!

Carol, that's a great thought.  I think everyone should check their own state to see what is available.  WI has a good program too, and I have ordered from them every year since buying my land.  The great thing about other states offering their trees is that I can get things I can't get here.  For whatever reason, Osage Orange isn't available from the WI tree program, so I'm very grateful that Missouri let me order from them.

Here's the link.    

https://mdc.mo.gov/trees-plants/tree-seedlings/order-seedlings

Yes they ship out of state.

Do we want to post this somewhere else for folks who would like to order but might skip this thread?

Lee Gee wrote:Here's the link.    

https://mdc.mo.gov/trees-plants/tree-seedlings/order-seedlings

Yes they ship out of state.

Do we want to post this somewhere else for folks who would like to order but might skip this thread?

If you want to start a thread on it, maybe several of us could search out the various state organizations, post links to them, and tell whether they ship out of state or not.  I can imagine that would be helpful for a number of people.

As an example, here is the WI info:

Wisconsin DNR tree ordering program

WI DNR tree ordering

Wisconsin will not ship out of state, and trees must be planted in WI.  Here are the rules for ordering:

"Our seedlings are available to all Wisconsin landowners regardless of residence. Trees must be planted in Wisconsin and used only for conservation purposes such as forest products, wildlife habitat and erosion control. State nursery stock may not be resold, used for ornamental, decorative or landscaping purposes or Christmas tree production."