Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!
Iterations are fine, we don't have to be perfect
My 2nd Location:Florida HardinessZone:10 AHS:10 GDD:8500 Rainfall:2in/mth winter, 8in/mth summer, Soil:Sand pH8 Flat
Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:I'm not sure about the numbers regarding the amount of water required -- help me out, I don't know how to estimate those numbers.
Dennis Bangham wrote:I have a 100 foot deep well that the water table is 45 foot.
But I am thinking 1.5 to 2 gallons per minute will be plenty.
The real need is to utilize a IBC tote (275 gallon food grade) for injecting JADAM Microorganism Solution at the base of each tree, several times in the fall and spring.
I will run pipe and spigots so I can use a hose to cover three rows at each spigot.
I can then make a watering ring with micro-sprayers (easy to clean) and then let them sit at each tree for an time and move it to the next couple of trees.
I see there is a RPS company that sells turnkey kits that look very easy
Iterations are fine, we don't have to be perfect
My 2nd Location:Florida HardinessZone:10 AHS:10 GDD:8500 Rainfall:2in/mth winter, 8in/mth summer, Soil:Sand pH8 Flat
Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!
Dennis Bangham wrote:
S Bengi wrote:
Pumps are usually 10% duty cycle or 1minute runtime aka 1min on and then 9min off vs being on non-stop 24/7.
So 80gal / 6min = 13.3gal per min when it is on (but the well non-stop recharge rate is still only 1.33gpm)
So with a 13.3gal drawndown at 40/60PSI we will need a pressure tank thats around 133gal.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Water-Worker-119-Gal-Pressurized-Well-Tank-HT119B/202846488
I recommend a pressured tank system because you are requesting a mixing setup that add Mineral/Fertilizer/Microorganism solution.
I recommend a foliar spray for micro-organism to cut down on fruit/leaf pest esp one made with some insect-frass/chitin, but a soil-only EM drench is good too.
Half acre is about 200ft x 100ft, maybe you will have 14 rows, and each row will be 100ft (12rows for 120 trees + 2rows of vegetables). Can you please clarify your actual setup, # of rows, row lenght, etc, this info is needed to better "design" your system and hopefully locate a kit.
Solar Panel (2400WH/day or 600W solar array)
Battery (2000WH usable each day = 4000WH @ 50% DoD)
1HP Pump (750W x 2.4Hr/day @ 10%duty cycle = 1800WH/day, 13.3gpm @ 100ft, 1min runtime & 9min rest)
Controller (to turn on pump + charge controller)
119gal Pressure tank (for 13.3gallon drawdown between runtime @ 40/60PSI)
275gal IBC Tank filled with micro organism + injector fitting
2,000ft Piping (200ft x2 to equalize pressure, + 1400ft for 14row)
140 "Spigot" (120 for the tree + 20 for raised beds)
140 Emitters lines (or you can just buy 20 for 2rows and rotate daily)
4 Overhead Emitters for foliar spray)
You are right on number of rows. The length of each row is 90 to 100 ft.
Here is a diagram I have been playing with since I learned how to use excel to make these. The lowest part of the orchard is upper right and highest lower left. About 10 foot drop at most. Each cell is 5ft by 5 ft.
Adapting as I go along. I should get 7 to 9 hours of sun a day. East of me is a tall tree line, but west is open. I am hoping that the natural environment will do the over all watering and I can add JMS yearly and some of the other JADAM mixes. Going for easy. A pick your own of alternative fruits for the locals to enjoy.
I have maybe 85% planted now but because of heart valve problems, I need to simplify and maybe leave some for future use. As for daily irrigation of raised beds and trees as needed, they are all close enough to tie into my home system and I have irrigation controls there. I also have a temporary above ground drip system for the orchard for the short dry spells. I am running drip irrigation on top to better handle adapting for changes. One person mentioned making the drip and fertigation separate systems which made a lot of sense. Especially now.
Since I will be out in recovery for the early winter I am looking for a complete system. I found this RPS system (link below) which has videos showing they have an out of box solution. It is intended to be run when ever the sun is out. I would have to find a way to turn off when not using. I live in North Alabama, so we get plenty of rain and too much at times but luckily I am on a slope. I need to drain because of short very cold weather and a slope makes it easy. I have put down 12 inches of wood chips on the whole property and am making paths for my small tractor. The pipe is to protect the underground lines which will be shallow.
https://shop.rpssolarpumps.com/collections/livestock/products/rps-200-solar-well-pump-kit?gclid=Cj0KCQjwiNSLBhCPARIsAKNS4_etrf2A2ZvJoxblXfpTyfaFle_GBXMz9ViaIwyjkpmVa6GD68EJDNEaAjIGEALw_wcB
Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!
Other people may reject you but if you lie in the forest floor for long enough the moss and fungi will accept you as one of their own!
S Bengi wrote:
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:I'm not sure about the numbers regarding the amount of water required -- help me out, I don't know how to estimate those numbers.
You can figure it out by using rainwater catchment formula or by using an acre foot of water(modified for only half acre and 1/12th of a foot )
Total Water = Area x Inches of Water x Rate
Total Water = 1/2 acre x one inch of water per week that plants need x 0.637gal/sqft/in
Total Water = 21,780sqft x 1in x 0.637
Total Water = 13,583gallons/week
14,000gal/week = 2,000gal/day = 80gal/hr
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:
Hmm. That seems like a formula for a mass broadcast irrigation or flooding system. Won't drip irrigation be much more efficient in water usage, and so require substantially less total water volume?
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