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Aluminized Steel Stovepipe

 
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Can Any one help: The 'pClould' was not much help this time, Our European Fellow Members have easy access to Aluminized Steel stove pipe, and no one is running around trying
to import our galvanized S.Pipe. Aluminized S.pipe is highly reflective and I would like to try using it as a quick and easy way to hold ceramic refractory batting in place around
the outside of the Burn Tunnel and the Heat Riser

I would like to find ether a source for Aluminized Steel piping or failing in that A source for flat Sheets of the stuff so I Can roll my own

All I have found so far is sheets of Automobile bodywork repair panels, and then I am stuck with 24'' by 24'' barely enough for a too short piece of 7'' piping ! Aluminized steel is
now the way almost all car mufflers and whole exhausts are made !

With 21,000 members, mostly here in the States, someone probably knows where this is getting down cycled every day, while only an idea, it is worth working on and given the
chance to play with this awhile, perhaps I can create a way to up cycle some out of the waste stream.

I will chase down any suggestions anyone wants to make ! Your Comments and Suggestions are Solicited and Welcome ! BIG AL !

Late note : I checked the ''Similar Threads'' and Used the Google Search Engine by clicking on Search in the Permies tool box A. L.
 
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I think I would staert with AKSteel, their Alumi-therm product sounds like what you want. 45-60" widths are the standard, if you want it cut more narrow there is an upcharge - so good there. The trouble is there minimum order is in tons. I would probably call them to ask "who is my local distributor" and see if you can work with the distributor.

http://www.aksteel.com/markets_products/carbon_aluminized.aspx

I have never done business with these folks, just googled them up a moment ago. On alibaba you can have all you want for 25 ton minimum order, plus shipping from the far east.

The only compnay I knwo of still making actual mufflers in the US is Dynomax, but they use mostly Stainless . However, lookign at the race series mini bullet at the bottom of this page isn't all stainless... http://www.dynomax.com/mufflers/

Otherwise I would ask what other common industrail uses there are for this stuff, hopefully someone in the US is using it in fabrication and will ahve some scrap laying around.

Good luck
 
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Michael Scott : Thanks for the input! For some reason they have blocked Adobe Reader ( Hey, I work with Cob, what else would I use !) And I put them on the bottom of the list
and promptly forgot why I put them there I have a couple of Phone calls in to them now ! Thanks again ! Big AL

Late Note : in a dialog on a bother thread the idea was raised that self cleaning ovens - the kind the door locks when you select this function ?! Probably has a ceramic refractory
mat. in there somewhere and would be worth the salvage effort ! That is what i call Up Cycling, I am hopping some one who words with this stuff, would love to get bigger pieces
to avoid having to piece together these sheets would want to go larger and then sell me his Off Cuts ! I can dream, can't I ?!
 
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Hi Allen, well, aluminized stove pipe is all about having an alumina layer protecting the steel from oxidizing, which would stop the spalling. If you want to find my usual supplier, it's poujoulat.

But they don't seem to speak about the aluminized pipes on the uk version of the site.

http://www.poujoulat.co.uk/

But still, i'm a bit leary of using thoses tubes. In my 6 incher J, it seems to have held well. But, i don't trust it well yet.

 
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had a few more minutes.

These guys in Ohio sound like they make the sheeting you want -- but they want to sell to folks operatiing factories. Same as above, you might call thm to ask who is their distributor nearest you.
http://www.atlassteel.com/Products/aluminizedSteel.aspx

Also, these folks are worth a call. I don't see aluminized steel directly on their website. What they do is buy mfr quantities of stuff, warehouse it and sell of retail sized chunks to tinkerers like you and me. If they have it the price of the metal will be OK, the shipping $$$ is where they make a buck or two.

http://www.onlinemetals.com/productguide.cfm

No idea where to upcycle that from. Are they making "metalbestos" type chimney pipe out of it now?
 
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Michael Scott : Here in the states when they use it in double walled pipe they use Stainless on the inside, and the aluminized steel on the outside. Stainless does have
a higher melting point than the Aluminized stuff, so if you were to bury them both in a burning pile of coal the aluminized stuff will fail First. BUT, because the
Aluminized steel reflects back more of the heat 80% it will be ideal as a protective layer around the insulation, around the bricks, around the Combustion Zone. The
Burn Tunnel and the outside of the Heat Riser! I am hoping to score some light weight cold air return ducting for a sacrificial form for the inner wall of my Heat Riser !

Because of your location, with much of your stuff coming from the Pacific Rim ( like 100% o your Cement), you have as good a shot at this as I do ! Again thanks for
sharing ! Big AL
 
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