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Satamax Antone

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Hi vribody!

Well, I would like a grid fence with my neighbour. I know tomatoes and all sort of peas climb. What other lants can I consider planting in front of that grid? What to mix at the bottom?

The plan would be to make smallish huggels at the bottom of the grid.

Two which would be interesting for me, blackberries, and raspberries. But they're really invasive? Any advice on how to contain those?

Thanks a lot.

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David Livingston

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Passion fruit ?
pumpkins
Nasturtium
Perennial sweet pea is nice for the flowers
Blackberry is not that invasive if you dont let it touch the ground . I grow it one plant per 6m . One year I train it to the right , the next year I train it to the left . At the end of the berry season I cut the previous years growth . Never let it touch the ground other wise you will get a new plant ( unless thats what you want )

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Alex Apfelbaum

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I've had success with grapes, kiwi, passion fruit and jasmin on fences, although I'm not sure if you can grow these at your altitude. Blackberries and raspberries work well too, if you regularly prune them back. To contain them you could plant them in a large solid container inside the soil to create a barrier, similar to what is sometimes done with running bamboo.

One of my fences has grapes intercropped with lavander and a few roses. Then this gets some small annuals added in rotations (herbs and onions mainly) completed with flowers.

Morning glories were not such a good experience, they climb fast and are absolutely gorgeous, but very invasive.

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Casie Becker

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I think some varieties of black raspberries are less likely to sucker than most. If you're keeping the canes trellised off the ground and have varieties then I think they would stay contained. The key would be researching any variety you find, until one meets your needs.

Between my neighbors and myself, I'm trellising runner beans, this year. That gets you pretty flowers, edible vegetables, nitrogen fixation that latter crops will appreciate, and in some climates runner beans are even perennial.

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I must admit I am shocked Satamax that as a frenchman did not mention grapes

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Satamax Antone

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Thanks a lot everybody.

Well David, grapes at my altitude are nearly impossible. Pasion fruit i would think soo too.

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Hops might work....I got some seed (humulus lupulus a perennial) to grow on a trellis to shade our very sunny front porch....all sounded great until I got the packet and it turns out I need to refrigerate for three months and then mix with damp sand and refrigerate another three months. I should have checked it out before ordering the seed I guess...maybe it was this particular variety. Anyway I think hops would make a dense screen once they were established and smell great. ...and instead of all the refrigerator stuff just plant in the fall...should work the same.

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Satamax Antone wrote:Well David, grapes at my altitude are nearly impossible.

Why are they nearly impossible? I'm at close to 5000 (4800 I believe) and grow grape vines without a problem.

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