Mike Haasl

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Mike is a homesteader, gardener, engineer, wood worker, blacksmith and most recently a greenhouse designer. He heard about permaculture in 2015 and has been learning ever since.
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Northern WI (zone 4)
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Thanks everyone!!  I guess I hadn't thought of the naturality of the drain.  I'll have to look at options but I'm guessing those will end up being pvc.

I like the upside down SS table idea William!  It reminds me that I should go to the surplus/refurbished kitchen supply warehouse and see if they have anything like that.  Or anything else that might work...  We are trying to avoid cement.

I also like the tadelakt idea but I'm guessing I wouldn't be able to get it to actually work.

I don't know any hobby metal benders but I can ask my network.

I am thinking of using the cheap fake metal roofing sheets that they use for wainscoting as the shower walls...
2 days ago
I'm contemplating a shower in a tiny home.  The owner wants the whole build to be natural (metal allowed).  I'm struggling to find good options for a natural shower pan to collect shower water and keep it from rotting out the naturally insulated floor.  They might be ok with a fiberglass shower base but they're fairly expensive these days.

All I can think of is a metal container of some sort that can be repurposed.  Some options are:

- Galvanized wash tub
       - Pros are it's pretty water proof, would keep a shower curtain contained and could be hauled outside to dump if a drain isn't included.  
       - Con is that it's kinda high to step into and not likely big enough for comfortable shower dancing (24" dia).



- Galvanized square stock tank
      - Pros are that it's water proof, would keep a curtain contained and is shower sized (34" on a side)
      - Cons are that it's $170 so a bit pricier than the alternatives



- Water heater leak catch pan
       - Pros are that it's flat bottomed, water tight, cheap and has a side drain hole
       - Cons are that it's flimsy, may not keep a shower curtain inside it, is only 28" diameter, and has a side drain hole



- Washing machine drain pan
       - Pros: Has a drain, beefy, 32x30 is borderline size, rectangular
       - Cons: Fiberglass, won't keep a shower curtain inside it



- Duct drain pan
       - Pros: didn't know it existed in the world, leak proof, cheap, square
       - Cons: Only 24", need a better threshold, shallow, probably flimsy



- Big piece of galvanized metal and bend it into a pan shape
       - Pros: likely cheap and within my abilities, customizable to fit the shower space, custom threshold height
       - Cons: don't know where to get a piece of galvanized sheet metal that big (48" square?)

Any other ideas or thoughts?  Thanks!
2 days ago
I think that since it's generally considered a tended space (the park), that would seem too much like a cultivated tree to be easy to approve
Gotcha, here's the List of SKIPpers with descriptions below for most of the advanced folks saying what they're after in life.  And here's the Leaderboard which is all the SKIPpers sorted by how many skills they've completed
5 days ago
The Otises are in control of the "connecting".  So if you see a PEP participant you like and want to talk to them about it, just send them a PM here through permies to start the conversation. That's the envelope icon at the top right of your screen.
5 days ago
Hi Gary, take a read through this thread that explains SKIP pretty thoroughly: permies.com/skip

5 days ago
I assumed that's why you posted it.  They look like patches to me?

And who has 7 laptops?
6 days ago
Before you cut that tree down, it looks like one of the few that is providing any shade and shelter for far arrakis. Where those few big trees are, the brush and greenery seems to eek out a survival underneath and to the north of them.  When they get cut down, everything around them seems to shift more to rock and dust.

I realize that converting to deciduous trees is a huge goal for the site.  Please consider using those big trees as some sun protection and mulch generation (needle drop) for those deciduous trees during their first decade of life as they try to get roots down to a bit of water.

Sorry, just my .04 cents
The 2026 Wisconsin Permaculture Convergence is coming up soon!

August 21-23 in Viroqua WI.  Free food and camping. $100 a ticket (plus some fees) and affordable family passes.  Workshops and classes on all sorts of topics.

Get your tickets HERE





Plus there's a free pre-convergence clay straw slip insulation workshop going on this weekend (Aug 1/2)!!!

1 week ago
Did you know the only annual permaculture convergence in the country that's bigger than the WI one is California?  At least that's what I heard...  Last year we had over 100 folks attend in far northern WI.  This year it's a bit closer to the populated parts of the state in the beautiful driftless area.

And we have the executive director of Seed Savers Exchange as the keynote speaker!  Plus a workshop to put straw slip insulation and clay plaster in a cabin wall system.  And a sound bath session.  Food and camping is included!  The details are coming together and we're getting excited!

Get yer tickets here!!!


If you're free this weekend, you can learn clay slip insulation as the team readies the walls for the plaster project
1 week ago