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May Gardener

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Studying, practicing, experimenting, dabbling, living the organic permie life to various degrees (10%-100%) since the mid 1980's and in a few different environments. Currently more in the dabbling and experimenting mode, feeling more of a deep-dive approaching soon. More in this post.
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R. Han wrote:
So if someone wanted to prove to me that just by using sufficent compost you can circumvent the clubroot problem,
he would need to inoculate the soil with clubroot and keep growing.

Now my question is, has anyone ever done such an expermient?

My focus/issues with crop rotation centers around brassicas because they seem to be the staple annual vegetable in the temperate climate
especially during the colder season  (Don't forget Turnips are brassicas , they used to fill the niche potatoes took over) and most of the profitable market gardet crops are brassicas too (Asia salad, arugula, radishes just to name a few).



So you're asking if anyone has ever used permaculture methods and/or non-rotation methods with soil known to have clubroot to successfully grow brassicas unaffected by it, or are you literally asking if anyone has intentionally added Plasmodiophora brassicae to their soil and successfully grown brassicas unaffected by it? If you're looking for the latter, I'd think that'd be something an agricultural college student would do or someone with a research grant... and I haven't seen any papers about it, so I'm thinking it hasn't been done, but clubroot hasn't been a focus for me. Perhaps doing a search via your local university's resources and librarian could help. Now, for the former, there may be people who have been able to overcome already existing clubroot without the standard methods of removal, sterilization, not growing brassicas, etc for the area...but again, I have not heard of them. You might want to start a thread specifically about clubroot (in the title too) to find out if any are here.

Personally, I'm in the group of people who grow too many things together that it makes conventional crop rotations complicated to say the least, and practically impossible realistically, especially when it comes to brassicas. I love brassicas, so they're all over the place and I will stick them under or beside almost anything and everything. Also, I let my things go to seed for collecting and self-resewing, so they place themselves all over the place too. I would be hard-pressed to find a garden spot where a brassica hasn't been for more than a season or two. That said, while gardening where I am has a multitude of challenges, the large temperature shifts, low humidity, low rain, alkaline high pH soil (and water) actually helps prevent clubroot.

I'm thinking if one were going to try to grow brassica in a place with Plasmodiophora brassicae in their soil without the standard treatments, it would include doing things to increase alkalinity and pH, make sure you support the health of the soil microbially, try to avoid soil temperatures between 68-77°F, err on the side of less water rather than more (so let the soil dry out some at times), make sure you've got really good drainage, and avoid getting any plant or soil matter from other known or suspected sources of Plasmodiophora brassicae.

We often make hand tools into standing tools by putting a longer handle on them, partly to not have to squat, kneel, or bend down, but partly to get better leverage or reach.

We also use the broken knives and tools for things, rocks for tools (actually I prefer a good rock to a hammer for many things), sticks for all kinds of things, and so on. Just this morning we were hammering a stake and used another stake to do it with.

I also have used hair ties (rubber band sort of things) for loads and loads of stuff, so handy. Old toothbrushes are great for scrubbing non-teeth things of all kinds. There's also the ole bending wire back and forth in the same spot to break it for cutting, and teeth to cut and grab softer things, fingernails as flathead screwdriver. Don't forget the boots for tools to kick things in place while holding things up, or to shift heavy things, etc. Oh, and the golf caddy bag dealie to cart tools around with works great.

Twisting grass or pine needles, etc works temporarily for twine in a pinch... for longer term and stronger hold I've made actual twine from the inner bark of all sorts of things. I've also done weaves of live vines to trellis them on themselves because I didn't have a tie for them strong enough handy--works long term too. Nails can be goof for scarification when you forget to do it beforehand or soak them and you just want to plant now because you already brought the seeds out there and all.

Some plants grow in tufts that work well for brooms or brushes out in the field, so to speak. When we were in the tropics we'd use the keys from rotted pandanas fruit or old coconut husks for brushing the sand off our feet before getting in the car at the beach. You could often find those laying around at the beach either dropped from the plants themselves or washed in with the tide.
2 days ago
How do you determine the moisture level percentage for things you have dehydrated yourself?
2 days ago
Not growing them, yet. Will be following this to see how it goes for you, and how it tastes to you. I might try it. Apparently they used to be called Psoralea esculenta botanically, so when you're looking into it, you could try looking that up too. This distribution map for it indicates Wyoming is part of its range, so it should do well for you.
2 days ago
Okay, yeah, guess it was my name. I just got the notification while I was on here. So odd as both "May" and "Gardener" are real names... trying it with just an initial for the first name.
Most of my ideas are about getting recipes free individually as that's how I've usually seen them.

You might also try:
  • checking places that sell dehydrated powders to see if they have recipes online
  • the Internet Archive's <a href="https://openlibrary.org/">Open Library</a>
  • prepper websites for online recipes
  • book publishers (like Random House, etc.) who would have vetted the content


  • The first and third suggestions might include some AI generated stuff, but at least you'd be able to see it and not have bought it. The second and fourth are more likely to not have AI generated stuff.
    2 days ago
    So I have this same issue. I signed up yesterday, posted two posts, and received emails thanking me for my quality posts because people had 'appled' it... but my name (May Gardener) has that grey box over it and hovering over it says, "This account has been retired," but nothing about a problem. Is there a way to see why this is happening and how to fix it?

    Is it my name, or could it be because I was having trouble posting one of my posts yesterday because it was triggering a non-word issue and I wasn't finding what was causing it... so I tried to post unsuccessfully several times before I figured out the culprit text. Could that have caused this? If so, how do I fix it... or do I need to?
    I have a BOOX Note Air5C and the keyboard case that is optional when ordering, as well as the folio case it comes with... and I usually use neither, laughing. I love the feel of it in my hands without the cases, and find they add extra bulk unnecessarily for me most of the time. I use the folio case when I go somewhere away from my house with it, and have attached a ribbon loop where the pen likes to sit magnetically because I don't trust it will stay there in transit and don't want to lose it.

    This is an Android tablet type of color e-ink device like the ReMarkable, but supposedly has the potential of installing Android apps as well. I've only tried a few, and none of them actually worked with it much. Still, I like its native functionality so much that doesn't matter. I haven't tried their BOOX store's apps, but it does work well enough for me to browse online and type in places like this, etc.

    It has the ability to use mini SD cards which I love because I can have different cards for different things. I have one card for medical stuff: to bring all my medical records, labs, etc. with me when I see a healthcare provider to have if needed as the digital medical records are all messed up and wrong.. and the healthcare prof's usually don't use them. I take notes from the appointment in there, circle and make notes on my labs to discuss, etc.

    For permaculture and garden things I have documents on there that list the locations and varieties, dates of planting, etc. for the trees and perennials. I take that out to the areas to note anything that hasn't made it, changes in plantings, etc. I have a map of my veggie garden areas and plantings, etc. I use for planning and record-keeping, etc. There are PDF's of documents I made on my computer with the watering schedules for the water timers I use for things, by the season, so that I can easily change them with the seasons. We stagger automatic watering to keep from using too much water at once. I keep track of the highs and lows, track first and last frost, etc. and the rain. When we plant with the monsoons I'll record where, when, etc.

    I used to do much of this on paper or on computer, but find I really like the e-ink as it's not just nice for the eyes, and battery life, but it's so much easier and quicker to grab than anything else for this for me. It doesn't fit in my pocket like a cell phone, but I don't like carrying a cell phone anymore.

    I don't like that the keyboard case only works in landscape and that there isn't a slot to charge it while it's in that keyboard case. Even if there were a slot for that it wouldn't work so well because it connects such that the port is then at the bottom, where it sits on a surface to type. The thing can rotate to portrait and landscape the other way around when not in the keyboard case, but is fixed in that case. If I had a bluetooth keyboard around I'd test just using that instead, as I suspect that may be just as good or better for my use cases.

    If you have questions about whether a certain app will work on this device, I'd be willing to try it and report back.
    2 days ago