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2022 PTJ projects - poor man's poll

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There are projects and artifacts that I think are good, but in the end, what is in my head might be quite different from what people actually want. So this poor man's poll is an attempt to do a bit of a reality check.

Please give a thumbs up (or "+1" on mobile view) for all of the ideas below that sound so good that they add a small bit of enticement to the idea of buying a ticket and traveling here.

(note that adding PIE to any post counts as 20 votes!)

Vote for as many as you like!

UPDATE! Here is a list of the best from below (grouped by "track")

rocket
- Cottage rocket (take your own core home)
- Rocket hot tub
- High quality 8” rocket engine
- add forge, and kiln
- Rocket heater
- rocket water heater (for large tub)
- Rocket that generates electricity
- Rocket oven in outdoor kitchen

earthworks
- Passive garden heater
- Holzer root cellar in a day
- Natural swimming pool

spring terrace
- Holzer technique to get water from dry land

apothecary
- a full track to build a robust apothecary
- infusions, decoctions, tinctures, salves, etc.

roundwood timber
- pavillion

bodger
- shaving horse
- skiddable bodger shed
- two types of mallet
- heavy kitchen chairs from log wood
- three legged sawbuck
- three log bench
- seven more projects

textiles
- window quilts
- large basket weaving
- pine needle basket
- oil cloth
- a spinning wheel made from a used bicycle wheel
- Big shade projects

solar/electric
- Permanent solar to a tiny house
- Electric tractor hayride tour
- Heating water with the sun without needing winterizing

natural building
- Trombe wall
- Cob sinks and showers
- Homegrown mushroom mycelium panels
- Install a yurt, complete with platform
- Homemade cement from wood ash
- Natural plasters/paint
- Sheep wool insulation (suet fermentation, etc)
- Felted walls for insulating a space

drystack
- dry stack moon gate
- dry stack stairs

homesteading
- humane harvest and preservation of a sheep or goat
- build and plant a large hugelkultur
- Storing food for winter without electricity (6 ways)
- Plant a living fence
- Lightweight portable chicken coop
- make lumber on the sawmill
- Make pottery from on-site harvested clay

wofati
- freezer wofati
- work on different phases of different wofatis

tech
- Pedal powered devices (grain grinder, water pump)
- install a heliostat
- Solar glass recycler
- Moving water up – windmill, solar, hand, etc

beekeeping
- build a few hives
- build a swarm trap
- extract honey
- Log beehive

Here is the list in order of votes (plus adjustments)

Cottage rocket (take your own core home)
Passive garden heater
Spring terrace
Roundwood timber framing (pavillion)
Permanent solar to a tiny house
Rocket hot tub
Trombe wall
Cob sinks and showers
High quality 8” rocket engine
Dry stack moon gate
Holzer root cellar
Slaughter/butcher/preserve a critter (ht)
Homegrown mushroom mycelium panels
Hugels and gardening (ht)
Freezer wofati
Pedal powered devices (grain grinder, water pump)
Yurt
Fiber (textiles) track (tt)
Honeybee track (hbt)
Bodger track
Sawmill stuff
Window quilts (tt)
Rocket heater
Electric tractor hayride tour
Heliostat
Homemade cement
Storing food for winter without electricity (6 ways)
Solar glass recycler
Pottery making
Plant a living fence
Moving water up – ram pump, windmill
Robust apothecary (ht)
Rocket water heater at Cooper
Lightweight portable chicken coop
Rocket that generates electricity
Work on a wofati
Big shade projects
Natural swimming pool
Practical basket weaving (tt)
Natural plasters/paint (ht)
Oil cloth (tt)
Build a pond
Hobbit door
Rocket oven in outdoor kitchen
Dry stack stairs
Heating water with the sun without needing winterizing
Upcycled spinning wheel and make yarn (tt)
Sheep wool insulation (suet fermentation, etc) (ht)
Felted walls for insulating a space (tt)
Weave a willow basket, weave strap to carry with (tt)
Log beehive (hbt)
Pine needle basket (tt)

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paul wheaton

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solar glass recycler

https://permies.com/t/118371/permaculture-projects/Solar-Glass-Recycler-aka-Fresnel

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round wood timber framing (maybe a berm shed, maybe the pavilion, maybe some other sort of structure)

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rocket heater

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skiddable structure

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spring terrace: shape dry land to be able to extract 400 gallons of water per day

https://permies.com/t/32725/Sepp-Spring-Terrace

https://permies.com/wiki/106512/podcast-Zach-Weiss-Spring-Terrace

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passive garden heater: a technique to help grow citrus, outdoors, in Montana

https://permies.com/t/98308/passive-solar-garden-heater

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dry stack moon gate: correctly stacking rock to have a wall with a 2-foot round hole

https://permies.com/t/85545/dry-stack-moon-gate

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junk pole fence

https://permies.com/t/47946/junkpole-fence-freaky-cheap-chicken

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rock jacks

https://permies.com/t/40/39351/permaculture-projects/rock-jack

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trombe wall. Move air 24 hours a day without electricity

here is a trombe wall with cob and duct made with some rabbit art (thanks to erica wisner)

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create an electric tractor hayride tour

Get our electric tractor in much better operating condition. Hook a trailer up to it that will have a bunch of hay/straw bales that people can sit on.

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install a heliostat: a sun tracking mirror to add light and heat to a house

We have one - so this would be to add more.

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add permanent solar power to a tiny house

Maybe add solar panels to allerton abbey. And add a lovely design for battery/power management inside.

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repair cafe

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hammock hut (skiddable structure)

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install a yurt (including building a platform)

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sawmill stuff

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pavilion - round wood timber framing

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cottage rocket - take home your own rocket mass heater core

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skiddable cabin (bigger than the love shack)

Something with a porch.

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skiddable structure trailer enhancement

A better way to get our skiddable structures onto a trailer.

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full tour of everything during the PTJ (broken up into four different tours so we can talk about existing stuff in a bit more detail)

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willow feeder upgrades

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high quality 8 inch, full size “rocket engine”
- powers a kiln
- powers a forge (like for swords)
- powers a forge (like for melting aluminum)

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Make trays & dry something in the two solar food dehydrators as a race

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adding a rocket pizza oven feature to the bun warmer

This would be a cob thing with a rather "organic" shape mounted on top of the barrel. Very experimental - we think we can get to 900 degrees.

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upgrade the bun warmer to move more heat to the buns

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adding a cob bench to the bun warmer
- half the bench has some exposed steel from the barrels

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art projects (still noodling on this one - but magdalene says we should come up with 20 projects in this space)

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work on a wofati
- excavator stuff
- putting on the membrane
- somebody will work on improving the wofati during the event and people can join in
- round wood timber framing
- cob (stab stab stab)

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round wood bunk beds

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hugelkultur and gardening
- chop and drop
- ruth stout mulching/composting
- seed saving
- twig art / twig construction / twig trellis / twig tomato cage

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solarium floor
- wood floor + art
- flag stone and cob?
- cob?

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wind harp

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willow nest / woven willow bench that looks a little like a nest - maybe at the top of the caldera

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rocket oven in the outdoor kitchen

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ultimate solar in allerton abbey

Definitely has at least two inverters. One is a 200 watt inverter, and one is a 3000 watt inverter. Each with a timer so they won't just be left on.

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