Just visited ECHO, (www.echonet.org) WOW!!! What a great place. If any permies are traveling through, you should check them out. I enjoyed a tour of their ministry and picked up a signed copy of Perennial Vegetables by Eric Toensmeier. Their use of appropriate technology for Tropical Third World Countries is inspiring! They show many wonderful ways in dealing with plants, animals, building design and construction and yes the word Permaculture was used. Well, after I asked a question about it, but they did acknowledge it and they are starting to implement Permaculture ideas. Check out some of my pictures.