• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • John F Dean
  • Timothy Norton
  • Nancy Reading
  • r ranson
  • Jay Angler
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • paul wheaton
  • Tereza Okava
  • Andrés Bernal
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
gardeners:
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • M Ljin
  • Matt McSpadden

Shed replacement and insulation

 
Posts: 19
Location: San Luis Valley, Colorado
13
2
hugelkultur cooking homestead
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The shed covering the pressure tank and whole house water filter was entirely inadequate. Mice lived under the tank and in the fiberglass insulation. Bunnies pooped everywhere and all kinds of animals appreciated the water dripping from the filter housing. Last winter, despite turning off the pump and blowing out the pipes, one of the valves and the pressure gauge broke. It just wasn’t going to work since I need running water this winter.



I had A LOT of different ideas about how to repair, improve, extend or replace the shed. I almost bought a prebuilt wooden shed for several thousand dollars. I thought about digging down and putting all the pipes in a basement/root cellar under a little guest house built out of recycled materials. It’s difficult and expensive to get help around here so I needed to be able to do as much by myself and with volunteers as possible. With simplicity and cost in mind, I finally settled on buying a simple metal shed kit for about $500.

I leveled the ground and removed the ill-advised sewage pipe located very close to the well head. I built a frame from recycled 2x6’s with the long side facing South. After filling the frame with crushed rock, I used concrete blocks to create a foundation. Leveling and squaring took a lot longer than I expected. Using the foundation to prop the tank, we were able to raise it so it would rest on blocks instead of the rock.



It took three people to assemble the shed itself. It sucked constructing it in the persistent wind; some panels tried to take flight. Using an additional tie down kit, we secured the shed to the concrete blocks in ten places. It’s not connected to the ground in any other way, and it hasn’t blown away in some recent severe winds so that’s nice. It’s also well-insulated now.

I filled gaps with caulk and spray foam. We used aluminum tape, foam board adhesive and spray foam to install 2” R-Tech insulation panels with the reflective side facing the inside of the shed. I had read a lot about insulating a metal building. I don’t really have to worry about condensation because it is soooo dry here, but there is a gap between the walls and panels. I want to keep it warm and use it as a greenhouse space. That’s why I also installed a used window to let light in when I open the doors.



I wrapped the tank and filter in reflective bubble insulation over the heat tape. I extended a flap of thin insulation board to cover the gap between the sliding doors. I filled in gaps with spray foam so it’s well insulated. I added shelves on the left side of the door because shelves are nice and they stabilize the whole frame. On a sunny day, it’s quite a bit warmer inside. I would love to be able to start plants inside there this spring. I have an extension cord inside that is currently running just the heat tape on the pipes. I have a timer power strip that I can use to run grow lights and a space heater if necessary.



All in all it cost about $1000. It took about as much time as I expected. I had help from five different volunteers. It turned out really well although it can be slightly blinding inside when it’s really sunny.
 
steward and tree herder
Posts: 10771
Location: Isle of Skye, Scotland. Nearly 70 inches rain a year
5115
5
transportation dog forest garden foraging trees books food preservation woodworking wood heat rocket stoves ungarbage
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
That's a great write up Jennie, thanks for sharing. It's nice that the reflective inner surface of the foam will reflect the light that comes through the door for the plants, and you're all set for a start this spring! A shed like that would need to be well bolted down here - straps over the top and bolted to bedrock, or well braced inside and filled with rock.
There's not much glass for growing - can you get there easily to open up the doors to let the daylight in and close up at night? It might be worth setting up a temperature monitoring system to see how it changes with the doors/windows open and closed. It looks a bit gappy round the sliding window.
 
Catch Ernie! Catch the egg! And catch this tiny ad too:
Learn Permaculture through a little hard work
https://wheaton-labs.com/bootcamp
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic