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High & Dry Gardening (USDA zones 5a, 5b, 6a)

 
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Let me get the 'woe is me' part out of the way. I lived for a couple of decades in coastal California, where if I accidentally dropped a seed in the driveway I'd still get a bumper crop of tomatoes from it. Now I live in New Mexico at over 7000' altitude and my green thumb has turned... well, let's just say gardening has become quite the challenge.

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  • Annual extreme temperatures (lowest low I've recorded here was -33°, highest was 118° in the sun)
  • Daily extreme temperature ranges (today in March the overnight low was 12° and the expected high will be in the 70s)
  • Annual rainfall around 10-12" these days (used to be more), with flooding for a few months in the summer


  • Those are the main issues and the challenges they present aside, I absolutely love living here.  The low humidity and high altitude are perfect for me -- I was miserable in the high humidity foggy CA summers and the rainy winters.  BUT...

    Sadly, in the nearly 25 years I've lived here in New Mexico, I can't seem to get my thumb to turn green again.  I'm not going to go into my specific efforts at this point, I just wanted to start a thread to be in contact with others who are in the same kind of situation:  high and dry gardening.  I'm hoping to learn about other people's successes so I can move on from my failures!
     
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    Gah -- I've tried many times to attach a photo of what it looks like around here in my part of NM, but it just will not work.  So here's a photo of what does grow well here -- some kind of weed that I keep forgetting the name of.  It's the first thing to sprout, even as early as January. It drops millions of seeds in the fall so it can afford to be adventuresome.  I'm always glad to see it.... at first.  But once so many of those seeds have become tall, gangly, invasive plants they're not so cute.
     
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    OK I give up on the photos.  
     
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    We’re not quite as high (6200’) but same problems, less moisture, lots of critters that chew through hoses, cages, eat anything any shade of green. We’ve had luck in the unprotected outdoors with asparagus, sunchokes, potatoes, mulberry, amaranth, squashes (sometimes) and corn. Mounds or slightly raised beds of manure, decomposed straw, chicken compost. Drip irrigation during the hottest weeks.

    Under cover or protected in some way we grow lots of greens this time of year. Too hot and bright by late May for anything tender. Consider spring under cover and fall as your growing seasons, unless you can get in on a cold frame or other structure.
     
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    Leslie Moody wrote:We’re not quite as high (6200’) but same problems, less moisture, lots of critters that chew through hoses, cages, eat anything any shade of green. We’ve had luck in the unprotected outdoors with asparagus, sunchokes, potatoes, mulberry, amaranth, squashes (sometimes) and corn. Mounds or slightly raised beds of manure, decomposed straw, chicken compost. Drip irrigation during the hottest weeks.

    Under cover or protected in some way we grow lots of greens this time of year. Too hot and bright by late May for anything tender. Consider spring under cover and fall as your growing seasons, unless you can get in on a cold frame or other structure.


    My asparagus is probably 10 years old and nothing bothers it.  It's growing in an old water trough too leaky to hold water.  I like those water troughs as planters!  It helps focus watering, and it keeps at least some critters out.  I've got sunchokes that are probably as old as the asparagus, also in a water trough -- I've never harvested any though.  I suppose I should find out when to do that!  

    I have hops that, in spite of adverse growing conditions, persists in sprouting back each spring, though by mid-summer the heat and dry air seem to be too much for it .  I'm growing it for shade purposes rather than for making beer (unfortunately it only gets a few feet high before the heat hits it), though I recently read that hops tea is a thing, so maybe this year I'll give that a try.  I'm going to try to post a photo of the hops I just now took, though I don't seem to be very successful in sharing photos here.  Anyway, considering that yesterday it was under snow, I'm impressed it's still green!

    Anything else I want to grow, even in water troughs, gets eaten by rodents, bugs, or mammals.  A porcupine got at my oldest apple tree, which is still struggling but it's not dead yet.  I've got wire mesh around apple saplings I've planted in the past couple of years, with bird netting on top to keep the elk from coming in from that direction.  I've got a cage around the largest and oldest hollyhock, but it's never flowered because somehow ground squirrels manage to get through the cage no matter what and eat it down to the crown several times a season.  I throw more hollyhock seeds out every year and before they can get established they get eaten by something.

    I try tomatoes every year, but they don't much like being watered with well water.  It isn't until the July rains that they really get going, but that means that by the first frost I usually only get green tomatoes.  

    One year I accidentally grew a bush of alfalfa.  It seeded itself from, I guess, my horses' hay.  It came back several years before an elk got it.  The elk eat just about everything, darn it!  I've got cages everywhere!  

    Last year blister beetles ate everything that produced deciduous leaves except for the top of my apple trees and the Russian sage.  My goji berry bushes were eaten to the wood.  They came back, after, though, so maybe this year there won't be blister beetles.  Hope springs eternal!

    I can't really condemn all the critters that want to eat what I plant.  They're hungry and thirsty.  I do provide water (away from my garden!) and this year I'm considering planting clover to act as a bribe -- eat this, not my garden.  Of course, that'll have to be fenced to keep my horses from eating it....
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    Hops, the day after it snowed
    Hops, the day after it snowed
     
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    Lif Strand wrote:OK I give up on the photos.  


    Oh, and I figured out why I was having so much trouble with the photos -- I wasn't using an acceptable format!  If I convert to jpg they'll post.  Yay!
     
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    Hello from Oaxaca!
    We aren't quite as high, about 5000 feet, and being much further south our extremes, are a bit less. Coldest, just above freezing, hottest in the 90s.  In March we can go from about 50 as an overnight low and upper 80s about 4 pm.  
    You didn't say anything about how much space you have but a little mini sunken greenhouse, with a top that you can open, close, and shade might be a good option for mitigating extremes, like the walipini from the Andes https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44398472  might be a good option?
     
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