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Are cordons left untouched?

 
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New grape owner here. My vines are trained on a wire for a year and are entering their 3rd spring. First year I let them grow wild, 2nd season I pruned and trained them to wire. Now going into the 3rd growing season.

My question is, do the cordons go untouched season after season? I only prune the shoots and canes correct?
 
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There are lots of different ways of training grape vines so it depends on what you are aiming at. I just prune mine in winter to a central cordon, and in summer take the shoots off a few leaves beyond the flowers to stop it taking over the world. I gather you can train in a new leader every year and it might be more productive that way, but the way I do it is simple and seems to work.
 
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So I guess I’m asking, once the cordons are established do I leave them alone every season and let them keep growing to get thicker and stronger? Or do I cut them and make new cordons every season?
 
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It depends on your plan.  Making full use of available space or limiting next years potential growth to limited space.  With the varieties, climate, soil and space I have some vines are 100 feet long. Productivity seems to be dependent on access to sun more than anything else.  My largest old vine is now shaded  by a large tree at its roots and produces nothing there but at the end produces abundantly when after harvest the fruited branch is pruned back to one or two buds.
 
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