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robyn Marg
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We have a wilcox hydraulic water ram..."with issues" and I can't locate any agent for them in Australia.
If you know of anyone who can fix it please forward details.
Else we may have to try and fix it ourselves.

the problem seems to be that the valve is leaking water out the top..
quite a lot and no water is being pumped up to the tank even though the ram is going through the motions. It is difficult to get going and makes some pretty weird shuddering noises when trying to get going. Wondered if I could take some movie and send it off ...to anyone who could help. any suggestions

This ram was fantastic for about 18 months then we had trouble...mysteriiously it began again and went non stop for another 12 months or so...but now water is going in all directions except up.
Cheer Robyn
 
Elwin Key
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got a frog in the relief valve?
 
Elwin Key
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more seriously, I would look at the pressure check valve preventing back flow from the pressure vessel...just a thought
 
Peter Mckinlay
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robyn Marg,

Where are you?
 
robyn Marg
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Peter, we are in Dorrigo NSW Australia
Kev, I wouls check those things if I knew where to look for them. Hmm guess I will do a bit of reading up . Thanks I'll get on to that
 
Jeremey Weeks
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There's a part of your pump that holds air. I couldn't find a pic of a wilcox, so let's use the basic diagram at this link... ram wiki The diagram is on the right side, down a ways. The part I'm referring to is called the pressure vessel.

It sounds like the pump isn't able to open the valve that is marked 5 in the diagram. We know that water is getting in, because you talk about water leaking out the top.

1) Make sure the pressure vessel has air in it. The pump won't work right if it's full of water.

2) Undo the outlet hose (3 in the diagram). Try sending water from the other end and see if it comes out. As mentioned earlier, frogs, etc can clog things up.

3) If the pressure vessel has air and the outlet hose isn't blocked, hook everything back up. If you can put a short piece of hose on the outlet so you can see if the pump starts pumping. Prop the short hose up, pointing in the air. Try running the pump manually. There's a piece that moves up and down or side to side. It's hooked to the waste valve. You probably bump it to get the pump going. Hold it in the up position for 5 seconds, then push it in the down position and hold it there for 5 seconds. Do this over and over and over. Does water come out of the hose? If not, tip the hose over and see if it was even partly full. If this works, you probably need to adjust the weight that pushes the waste valve down, or something was stuck in the waste valve and it needts to be cleaned.

4) If all of the above was unsuccessful, I'm guessing that the check valve is stuck shut or open. or

5) Your ram pump has a leak somewhere past the check valve.

I would expect #1 to be the cause except that it has run fine for 18 months. Usually the air gets absorbed faster than this.

I wish I was close. I like to fiddle with those things.

 
Harry Williamson
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Hi All
We have been running a 2" WILCOX for over 25 years, and when we got it it was second hand and really old. Amazing.
Over the years I have made several mods and am just now in the process of making an upgraded version, as a [production model, with better corrosion resistance and slightly better bearings that are easy to field refit, and so on.

It does about 45 million strokes a year and pumps 5000 liters a day up 80+ M with a 12M drive pipe from a 4M head.
We use 20mm AG pipe and standard fittings, all buried of course. We use a 200 L poly header-tank with strainers made from shade cloth, and a big strainer at the pickup point, with a 3" AG supply pipe 100 M long with another 6M fall to the 200L header.
If you or anyone else here is interested in knowing more about these truly amazing pumps, how to make them work, and where to get parts remade, or want to buy a whole new one, just drop me a line.
Email is harry(at) springstudio dot com dot au and in the interests of conservation and the joy of having that old pump knocking away day and night I'll be most glad to help if I can.

 
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