• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies living kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education experiences global resources the cider press projects digital market permies.com all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nicole Alderman
  • raven ranson
  • paul wheaton
  • Jocelyn Campbell
  • Julia Winter
stewards:
  • Burra Maluca
  • Devaka Cooray
  • Bill Erickson
garden masters:
  • Joylynn Hardesty
  • Bryant RedHawk
  • Mike Jay
gardeners:
  • Joseph Lofthouse
  • Dan Boone
  • Daron Williams

Should I leave the pine stumps or pull them out?  RSS feed

 
Posts: 7
Location: Durham, NC
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I recently bought some land and am planning a forest garden. First, though, the large pine trees need to be removed (it was a pasture about 30 years ago...). Should I have the stumps just cut to the ground and plant around them, allowing them to slowly compost in place, or have the stumps removed?
Thanks for the Q and A, Mr. Sobkowiak!
Terri in NC
 
Posts: 1636
Location: Massachusetts, Zone:6/7, AHS:4, Rainfall:48in even distribution
26
forest garden solar
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
You have 6 week to inoculate them with mushroom plugs. With any luck you can start harvesting next year and for the next 6 years.
 
Terri Simmons
Posts: 7
Location: Durham, NC
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Which mushrooms grow in pine? I thought shiitake only grow in hardwood (and specific ones at that); I would love to have the mushrooms!
 
permaculture orchardist
Posts: 119
10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Terri Simmons wrote:I recently bought some land and am planning a forest garden. First, though, the large pine trees need to be removed (it was a pasture about 30 years ago...). Should I have the stumps just cut to the ground and plant around them, allowing them to slowly compost in place, or have the stumps removed?
Thanks for the Q and A, Mr. Sobkowiak!
Terri in NC


Terri don't make work for yourself. There is enough to do as is. Based on your question there are STILL pines standing. If pines plant blueberries!!
If you will remove the trees leave the stumps, cut to the ground so you don't trip over them.
 
Terri Simmons
Posts: 7
Location: Durham, NC
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The entire 2-acre lot is wooded; the pines are about 70-80' tall and shade the south-east corner. The other sides slope significantly and have more of a hardwood forest, which I had planned to leave intact except for a few shrubs here and there. I was thinking about growing several fruit trees in addition to berries where the pines are now; what else could grow underneath them?
 
Stefan Sobkowiak
permaculture orchardist
Posts: 119
10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Terri Simmons wrote:The entire 2-acre lot is wooded; the pines are about 70-80' tall and shade the south-east corner. The other sides slope significantly and have more of a hardwood forest, which I had planned to leave intact except for a few shrubs here and there. I was thinking about growing several fruit trees in addition to berries where the pines are now; what else could grow underneath them?


Terri save yourself a lot of work changing the soil conditions for fruit trees from pines. Plant your fruit trees on the slope where the hardwoods are. It's closer to the conditions the fruit trees like. You only need to go the trees a few times a year anyway.
Any other suggestions other than blueberries under pines
 
pollinator
Posts: 2392
82
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Stefan Sobkowiak wrote:
Any other suggestions other than blueberries under pines



Muscadines and scuppernongs seem to effortlessly climb through the pine woods around here.
 
Terri Simmons
Posts: 7
Location: Durham, NC
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
yes, the muscadines are everywhere amongst the pines...

so much to learn; I suppose I will have to get Morris' book finally, and that new orchard movie I'd heard about, too.
Thanks much, you've given me something to think about.
Terri
 
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford. Tiny ad:
Binge on 17 Seasons of Permaculture Design Monkeys!
http://permaculture-design-course.com
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!