James Hershiser wrote:What's the biggest challenge of converting a conventional orchard into a permaculture orchard?
Blayne Sukut wrote: Just some thoughts not really knowing your situation... You could maybe use the keyline system and take out every other row that follows the keyline then you'd have alley ways to work with and not loose all the trees and perhaps plant some under story and over story... If you haven't got Mark Shepards Restoration Agriculture book I would highly recommend getting it along with Water for Every Farm Yeomans Keyline Plan. First thing to do perhaps is just stop fertilizing them or spraying them plant some under story and see what survives and implement the keyline swells ASAP so you can stop irrigating them too... my 3 cents
Stefan Sobkowiak wrote:Worth repeating: "The biggest challenge is getting over the fact that you will rip up most of it and start over. Better to start right than start over."
Ted Jurney wrote:Quick question: I too have a conventional, monoculture orchard, much of it dead/dying. Plus we have a serious infestation of Russian olive trees everywhere as well. It has "overtaken" hundreds of trees. It seems everyone, starting with the local ag people from the state university to national experts all saying everything has to be "ripped out". This for us is a potential deal breaker, or "deal setter back another few years". Why does everything have to be ripped out? This would require a bulldozer or whatever and dump truck, crews of people...tens of thousands probably. My plan, all I can afford, is cutting flush, then sheet mulching heavily over the stump, leaving the roots to rot. Is this not a good idea? I have 18 acres of a dead/dying orchard. In serious need of help and consultation!
Ted Jurney wrote:Stefan-
Thank you so much for your reply. The creator of this orchard passed away in 2004 and every day since then my wife and I have been ruminating, stressing, obsessing (on my part) dreaming, fighting, wondering and asking about what direction to go. I have talked to lots of folks, read some books, visited some orchards and I have to tell you: Your words of encouragement and a simple permaculture plan brought tears to my eyes. Good tears. I cant express how much these words, combined with then watching The Man Who Planted Trees this morning, and aside from being a blubbering mess of emotions, I actually feel good about all of this for the first time in a long, long, long time. Thank you.
I very much am interested in a phone consultation, and will contact you offline.
I really do feel like buying 12 copies of the DVD and just arbitrarily giving them to people, that may happen...
Thanks to you, Paul, and Permies everywhere!