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Will used water heater tank work instead of barrel over heat riser?

 
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Hi. Instead of a barrel will a used water heater tank work over an insulated heat riser. I'm using a castable insulated refractory mix for the heat riser. I have an old gas water heater and am wondering if there are any problems substituting the tank for a steel barrel? Thanks! Sally
 
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I would think so. I recently got a meat smoker on craigslist that I intend to use as the barrel around the heat riser. If you are going to cover the whole thing in cob, there's probably a lot of things you can use as a template to hold it in place while you get ready to cover it in mud.
 
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Hello Sally,

I have seen many examples of old water heaters used as the 'barrel' in RMH. You should have no problems with the substitution.
 
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Thanks everybody. This feedback is really helpful. I'll post results as the project proceeds!
 
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Check out my 3 water tank hybrid build, works extremely well!
 
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Alan, where do I find your " 3 water tank hybrid build"... would love to see it!

I tore off the outside of my water heater and got down to the tank. It is a propane water heater so it has a stack in the middle. Without a lot of welding I can't easily use it for over the riser but I did think about using it somehow as a bell, maybe the second bell.

Now I'm thinking of building with old brick over the insulated riser. Anyone know if I can use fireclay/sand mortar for that? The refractory mortar is really pricey for that much brick work. I realize that will limit immediate radiant heat to the room but that's okay with me. Seems like building with brick instead of a metal barrel over the riser will serve as a first bell. Thoughts?

Thanks.
Sally
 
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Sally, It's about half way down on this page. I am using fire clay plus sand for back fill, and regular mortar for the brick work. Alan
 
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Alan Mikoleit wrote:Sally, It's about half way down on this page. I am using fire clay plus sand for back fill, and regular mortar for the brick work. Alan



Sorry Alan....halfway down on what page?
 
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https://permies.com/t/34687/rocket-stoves/RMH-double-barrel-stove-hybrid try this then Alan
 
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