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I have a small pond that is begging for a flowform.  A quick google yielded two or three companies in the US which manufacture flowforms.  One company never answers their phone and the other one was selling each flowform piece for like 300 dollars.  Where can I buy a reasonably priced flowform?  Even if its chinese, I don't care.  I know they're quality products and everything, but I can't shell out 1000 bucks for 7 ft. of flowform.

Any tips?
 
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Have you considered making your own?
 
                            
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Indeed I have.  I just ordered the Flowforms book so I'm sure they're will be plenty of inspiration.  In the meantime, anyone know of any good DIY info on flowforms?
 
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old thread for a bump, but right where I am at presently.
anybody know about DIY flowforms? I want to oxygenate a small stream, not mix BD preps.
suggestions?
 
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My ideas of how to oxygenate a small stream:

put a log in the stream from one edge of the stream diagonal across it so the water hits the log and has to travel along the diagonal and when it reaches the end of the log is will spin off the end creating a vorted, which will by its nature suck O2 into the water.

or do the same thing by making sort of walls with logs or other stuff so for instance, one log or rock wall is put up against the left bank of the stream with room on the right side of the stream for water to travel, and then a few feet further downstream there is a log up against the right side of the stream with room for the water to travel along the left side , and you stagger logs like this for a few levels so the water has to zigzag. there is a flowform

also you could make a hyperbolic cone and use a ram pump or some other thing to get the water into the top of it so it funnels down the cone taking O2 with it.

or just check out a movie on Youtube called " Victor Schauberger - Comprehend and Copy Nature " it comes in a Geman and English Version.

lemme know if you like my suggestions or what new ideas you have. I also have a stream to take care of and I am very interested in its health.
 
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One of my teachers told me to make the water go "tinkle pinkle" . or at least so you hear that sort of water crashing and singing noise. like putting a ram pump or hose and shooting water up into the air and making it crash back down, getting bubbles and such in the water.

use your imagination and please post some pictures of what you do.
 
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thanks for the video suggestion Darwin, the parts on water were very interesting.

I like your idea of using the logs at angles in the streamcourse to create a series of alternating cascading vortexes. And I totally agree with you about the desired sound of happy water.

I have about a 40' long watercourse, with a good 10' of drop into my pond. I think I may try your idea with the logs at the top, and then I wonder if it would be possible to form some flowforms into the streambed with concrete further down? Seems a pity that there are no lower cost manufacturers of BD flowforms. But they also seem simple enough to be constructable from concrete and reinforcing wire. You think?
 
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Hey I was just looking at some of my favorite images.
Specifically scroll down about 1/10 of the length down this page, and see the picture with the egg in the stream, creating longitudal vortexes. This is probably equal in power to a flowform.

here is the link Schauberger page
- see fig. 11.4

Bill Mollison also talks about Flowforms in the Permaculture Handbook, he suggest making them concrete or Glass Reinforced Plastic - I assume he means Fiberglass...

You could probly make a mold out of Dirt, then pour concrete over the shape in the dirt, let it dry, and clean the dirt out of the bottom part when its dry.

Cheers, take care of your waters
 
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