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Permies Low-cost/No-cost revenue streams- throw Paul some cheese

 
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So I would start my own forum to get massive power, but I am afraid I would be corrupted absolutely. Plus it seems like a great deal of work.

So, instead, I have been trying to figure out how to make Permies.com spawn other productive enterprises. I think a part of that is simply to make it mildly more lucrative so Paul can farm out stuff and push the ball forward. I have checked Forbes rankings and he is still not on there, and I think he uses his resources with good effect. I want to throw him some cheddar.

How do I do that? So I can buy stuff off the site. Part of the problem with running a site that is opposite to a materialist/consumerist site is that he wants you to buy what you need, which is a rounding error of what you want. So there are some ads, but used sparingly for things that are pretty incontrovertibly permie-approved. I have no problem with the ads at all. I don't see the few things that I have bought paying my way for what I have learned.

I can provide content and drive traffic. I post occasionally, but more now when I feel like my post has good content, and will add to the discussion. I read a fair amount of abstract stuff but my $0.02 is not really a value-add. I try to remember to take pictures because it makes Jocelyn happy. And that makes Paul happy, and you don't want to see frustrated Paul. It's like the end scene in King Kong (the old one). I will get a selfie stick or stand and make some videos. That's good stuff. I can make drawings that people can use for inspiration (I hope).

I can send money. I can buy pie which also is a way of sending money. That is a very straightforward transaction.

I can use Brave as a browser and turn on Brave Payments, which is a micropayment service. I think we can get Paul to allow that. It's low overhead and you should probably (I just shoulded) look into Brave for the privacy benefits anyhow. I add $5 a month and spread it out over my favorite websites that rely on funding streams other than ads mostly. I turn auto-include OFF, since it will happily send Mark Zuckerberg money if you visit facebook. So I have to manually add sites, but there are really only a handful I want to support.

Other way to give Paul Amazon's money is to use https://smile.amazon.com/ and choose Permies or Richsoil or however Paul sets it up. This is 0.5% of your purchase, so real money over thousands of people.

Or use thisAmazon link and just keep shopping.  

These are painless ways of transferring resources to the empire.
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Turn Auto-include OFF- no money for Mark Zuckerberg
 
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TJ Jefferson, I humbly must disagree with some of what you say, not regarding kicking the ball down the field (or tossing half rotted logs into a hugelkulture as it is), but in that you have nothing to add to most conversations. That my good friend is blarney; for you, and for the other 99% that read and do not FEEL worthy of contributing. If I am sounding harsh, please do not take it that way, it is just that feelings are terrible indicators in life. They serve their purpose, and I have a good friend who has no emotion whatsoever. It does not matter if she just won the lottery, or rolled her car going down the interstate...same "oh yeah, that happened" attitude. She is a great friend, but while we had the chance to have a relationship, I could not do so at the time. No way; with my current wife Katie, emotion between us is a true glue and happiness. So yes emotion has purpose, but you feeling unworthy of posting your two cents is the equivalent of writers block for forums.

EVERYONE has content that can add to the discussion. Farming (which is what Permiculture is) has been going on for 9000 years, and it is actually pretty simple. It need not be super scientific though I find the discussions regarding scientific discoveries intriguing. In the end, yes little white woolly sheep convert green grass to red meat and white milk, then poo it out under blue skies (and gray when it is raining). Yep, been happening now for 9000 years. ANYONE, whether they have 2 sheep or 20,000 can add to the discussion. This is simple stuff...

I look at forums like this. It is like us going into a local gardening store, plunking down around the rocket mass heater, and someone starts a discussion. As people come in, they may have a little time because they are busy and need to check in and then get back to the homestead, or they might be like me, retired and have a little more time. Maybe they have a 1/4 acre lot in the city, or maybe they have a few hundred acres. Maybe they have raised livestock for years, or are headed out to pick them up after they buy a bag of grain. The point is, just like in the real world where life is varied, so is Permie Forums. Yes Paul Wheaton, to which I greatly respect; owns the store and thus sets the rules and dictates what goes on in his store, but ultimately EVERYONE have things to add. Note the word, HAVE...I believe that sincerely. I admit I have a few acres, and a few sheep kicking around, but I never forgot where I started. It has been a rough road to get here, and now that I am full time farming, even tougher, but as the Maine Commissioner of Agriculture demanded of the local soil and water conservation district this winter, FARMERS MUST SHARE WITH EACH OTHER. That is so true because it is so lacking. I took it to heart, and I try so hard to share truthful, purposeful content to the members of Permies. I am not perfect; right now I am really sick, really tired, still struggling to farm, but want to share my experiences so others can avoid the mistakes I have.

So should you. So should others who feel as you do; that they cannot contribute.

It is kind of like using a chainsaw to trim a Bonsai Tree; just because a person has large resources does not mean it is effective. The truth of that is, you would be appalled at the acres I have lying in waste...that I pay a lot of property tax on...that is not in full production. I am in awe of some of the people on here who have smaller acreages and get so much out of it.

In short, I am impressed with doers who make the most of what they got. This forum is teeming with people like that; now if we could only convince them to start posting...

 
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Travis, I reread my post. Rather than edit it, I will just clarify. This was not intended to be a downer at all on posting. I just have gotten hundreds of dollars of amazing benefit from people on here. I just want to post better, which means I spend more time on them and try to add content, so I post less! It is a better product, and more like what I get most of my real salient info from.

The big take home was how do I repay Paul for facilitating this interaction. I am not a big spender, as anyone who has seen my car can attest. I probably will never repay you or Burra or, like, 100 other people on here. This was just my attempt to identify ways we can show Paul a little love!

I'd be happy to post further on how to set up Brave payments. It is super easy, and I fund a handful of people I probably won't ever meet because they give me value! And I love me a little Amazon sometimes!
 
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