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Below are shots I took last year of two berry bushes I didn't mange to positively ID and forgot about until I was browsing old photos trying to find something else.

I'm in 5b, North Central MA, USA if that helps.  Pictures were taken on 12 July 2017.

And help would be appreciated.
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Plant 1
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Plant 2
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First plant looks like a honeysuckle. The second is a blueberry.
 
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C Dart wrote:First plant looks like a honeysuckle. The second is a blueberry.


Hmm.  I don't recall honeysuckle flowers last year, but we had a lot to keep track of in the yard.  I will keep a better eye on the flowers this year.

For the second, it must be a different variety than the other blue we have (high bush that we bought), but that might have to do with age of the plant too.

Thank you!
 
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The first plant looks like wintergreen to me. Here is a wiki on it:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintergreen

Wintergreen is usually easy to test. Crush the berry and if it is wintergreen, it should smell like wintergreen. Wintergreen is related to blueberriy and huckleberry, hence why the plant looks similar.

Here is a pic from online:


Does that look similar to you? But the cool thing with this plant is that if you test the berry, the smell should be able to give you the answer!
 
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Do you live where salal grows?  The second looks a lot like that.
 
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Kim Goodwin wrote:{snip}Does that look similar to you? But the cool thing with this plant is that if you test the berry, the smell should be able to give you the answer!


It does look a bit similar.  Also, very true about how easy it is to test.  *chuckles*  The leaf color I think is not as blue undertoned as the wintergreen, but I will definitely keep this possibilty in mind as I observe it this year.  Thank you!

r ranson wrote:Do you live where salal grows?  The second looks a lot like that.

  I am 5b, so likely not from what I read on that page.  Really lovely flowers though!  Thank you for introducing me to something new and neat.

 
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How tall is the first plant? It looks to be shrub like, wintergreen is a ground cover. The second plant is in the family Ericaceae, which includes blueberry, huckleberry and salal.
 
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Number one looks like Twinberry - Twinberry honeysuckle.
The flowers aren't as large and whiskered as other honeysuckles.

Here's a page with some info:
https://plants.usda.gov/factsheet/pdf/fs_loin5.pdf

I hope this helps
 
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C Dart wrote:How tall is the first plant? It looks to be shrub like, wintergreen is a ground cover. The second plant is in the family Ericaceae, which includes blueberry, huckleberry and salal.

Now that they're berryless, since we have so many berry everything, I'll have to look at the leaves again to remember which is which to be more certain of the height.  After looking at the images again, I'm thinking even though it's in the rock wall, it's not low enough to be considered ground cover, but I'll hold out saying either way until I'm sure.  The huckleberry pics I've looked at do seem similar for the 2nd plant.  Thank you for the info for both pics.

Elizabeth Griffith wrote:Number one looks like Twinberry - Twinberry honeysuckle.  The flowers aren't as large and whiskered as other honeysuckles.

Here's a page with some info:
https://plants.usda.gov/factsheet/pdf/fs_loin5.pdf

I hope this helps

I'm in a holding pattern to a point with these IDs now, waiting for flower in the hopes that will help narrow down the IDs.  So I will keep the Twinberry in the possible pool.  Thank you for the suggestion. 

I did finally figure out what had gone wrong with our better camera that is much better at closeups, so once they flower, I'll do an update to this thread.  Between showing the flowers plus better showing the details for the leaves, I think that will help.
 
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I just looked it up again...To see if it is wintergreen you could just pinch/rub the leaves.  The wintergreen oil is also in the leaves.  So doesn't matter if the berries are gone.   Honeysuckle shouldn't have any minty smell, whereas wintergreen is a minty sort of smell.  Meaning it should be obvious if it is wintergreen, because there are only a few minty plants.  And most of those are mint.  :-D
Hope that helps.
 
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