Judith Browning

Kyle, I have not heard of it although whatI just read about it sounds great...will read some more...thanks!

I'll leave the link here in case anyone else wants to check it out.

I started with wikipedias article because it uses lots less data.

https://www.inaturalist.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INaturalist

M Ljin wrote:Another thought is that on iPhone, if you include location on pictures, it will automatically have a map for you of where each picture was taken. Maybe this will help you?

thanks M.!
that could be helpful although that's the very reason I don't turn on location on this phone 😊

  Permaculture designs seem to avoid setting things out on straight lines, but by golly are they useful in keeping track of things.    

John, This is so true and is why I thought something that would map my footsteps and positions as I go from plants/trees to plants/trees in my quite haphazard and unplanned plantings would be helpful.

The design is happening in spite of my random ways as things get larger and more clearly intentional.
I thought for our families benefit I would try to map and label periennials at least but was feeling overwhelmed by the task in the heat of summer.

thanks folks!

Aaron, that wand thing might be as close to anything I've heard of....thanks!
I can imagine the neighbor's curiosity at that one🙄

Joao, your app sounds like a great organizing tool, especially for those already keeping records on a digital device.

What I want to accomplish is a paper map of plants and trees here.  Graph paper and a pencil have usually been my tools....just the thought of getting out in the heat this summer got me wondering about options and not very practical ones.

The 'want to do' list gets longer as I get older 😊

Between the conscious and the unconscious
The mind has put up a swing.
All earth creatures, even supernovas,
Sway between these two trees
And it never winds down.
Angels, animals, humans, insects by the million,
Also the wheeling sun and moon;
Ages go by, and it goes on.
Everything is swinging: heaven, earth, water, fire
And the secret one slowly growing a body.
If you see that all for even fifteen seconds,
That glimpse will cause you to be awakened for life.

Kabir (1440-1518, Mystic Poet of India)

Is there a program, an app or some 'thing' for a cell phone where you could turn it on and walk to a plant, type in a label then walk to another plant and label and even photograph it...in no particular order but the program can read where you are on the ground so that what you end up with is a map with all of the plant life marked in correct positions?

I have drawn maps, even with graph paper and that's what I'll probably do but this crossed my mind as as a way to locate more accurately.

Downside would be I'd have to turn on 'location' which I never do.

It’s the most precious thing… to know absolutely where you belong.
There’s a whole emotional wrapping-around-of-you here.
You see the same rock, tree, road, clouds, sun –
you develop a nice kind of intimacy with the world around you.
To be intimate is to grow, to learn… it is absolutely fulfilling.
Intimacy, that’s my magic word for why I live here.

Tessie Naranjo
(Santa Clara Pueblo Elder)

When I started moringa from seed I'm pretty sure I waited until it was warm out if not hot here, so May at least, and after soaking overnight planting an inch deep, maybe a half inch? in a 3" or 4" pot....out in the sun and heat....I probably had them in a tray to water from the bottom as that's what I usually do.
I really can't remember how big they were when I transplanted them to the big tubs but seems like they grew fast and I think heat was the reason.

My original seed was from Baker Creek and I think there were 15 seeds and all germinated.

Your season is longer so I wondered why you started them indoors?
Maybe too many shocks in a row caused leaf loss?
I don't remember that happening here, just that they grew very fast and needed to be watered fairly often.

I do have occasional yellow leaves on these old roots but no leaf loss.

Maybe it's because my roots are old now but it seems like they take my lifting and storing pretty well and continue to regrow the next season out...still, I wait for a good warm up to reset them in the tubs and water well.

I think that last one looks great and maybe the others will set new leaves...don't give up😊

  And on July 4, 1776, the Second Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence, declaring: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

For all the fact that the congressmen got around the sticky little problem of Black and Indigenous enslavement by defining “men” as “white men,” and for all that it never crossed their minds that women might also have rights, the Declaration of Independence was an astonishingly radical document. In a world that had been dominated by a small class of rich men for so long that most people simply accepted that they should be forever tied to their status at birth, a group of upstart legislators on the edges of a continent declared that no man was born better than any other.

America was founded on the radical idea that all men are created equal.

What the founders declared self-evident was not so clear eighty-seven years later, when southern white men went to war to reshape America into a nation in which African Americans, Indigenous Americans, Chinese, Mexicans, and Irish were locked into a lower status than white Americans. In that era, equality had become a “proposition,” rather than “self-evident.”

“Four score and seven years ago,” Abraham Lincoln reminded Americans, “our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.” In 1863, Lincoln explained, the Civil War was “testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.”

It did, of course. The Confederate rebellion failed. The United States endured, and Americans began to expand the idea that all men are created equal to include Black men, men of color, and eventually women.

But just as in the 1850s, we are now, once again, facing a rebellion against our founding principle as a few people seek to reshape America into a nation in which certain people are better than others.

The men who endorsed the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776, pledged their “Lives, [their] Fortunes and [their] sacred Honor” to defend the idea of human equality. Ever since then, Americans have sacrificed their own fortunes, honor, and even their lives, for that principle.

Lincoln reminded Civil War Americans of those sacrifices when he urged the people of his era to “take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

Words to live by in 2026.

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-3-2026

In this universe, all activities, events, and entities are related. Indians believe that everything in the universe has value and instructs us in some aspect of life. Everything is alive and is making choices that determine the future, so the world is constantly creating itself. With the wisdom and time for reflection that old age provides, we may discover unsuspected relationships.

Vine Deloria, Jr
(1933-2005, Standing Rock Sioux Elder)