Joe Morgan

Thanks. That helps. The video was helpful too at:
http://www.rocketstove.org/index.php/household-stoves

There was some interesting work on fan stoves too at:
http://www.aprovecho.org/lab/index.php

But thats a different post

Joe

OK, thats helpful. Still a couple questions:

From what you have explained the cooling air in the barrel sinks, but it must also be "pushed" by the rising air, correct?

Can a vermiculite/clay riser be poured thick enough to insulate well without cracking? Is there an ideal thickness?

On my wood stove I used vermiculite/concrete about 8:1 for an insulation layer under the firebrick. It has good comprehsive strength but crumbles easily and therefore needs to be protected were its exposed.

From what I've read a stove-pipe with a vermi/concrete wrap wouldn't last? Does the stovepipe actually deteriorate with the heat?

Thanks -

Joe

Help me understand this - I'm new to the whole concept: Why would you want vermiculite in the liner clay? Wouldn't it be more useful as a layer outside the riser, fire box, etc?
Also, if one were to use raw or dug clay, wouldn't the process of using it essentially vitrify it?

Looking at the pic of the 8000 year old greek (or were they roman) versions of clay risers made me wonder. We also have clay "tile" - cylinders of various sizes that were used to drain fields or lined wells - laying about our farm. Wouldn't they work if held in place with hi-temp mortar?

Thanks for any insights -

Joe

I'm trying to squeeze multi-functionality into one unit, so, yea, its confusing to me too

The wood structure will be a smoker that I will lift off when I want to use the rocket cooker. The firebox for the smoker is at the end of the long tube. This allows the smoke to cool before filling the smoke chamber. So that will be the cool smoker. I can do the hot smoking by using the short tube connected to the rocket cooker.

The grill space will double as a fireplace - the grates and lids will be removable.

But its the cooker that I'm concerned about. I hope its designed in a way that will quickly and efficiently bring 5-10 gallons of liquid to a boil.

Joe

Is the canning stove anything like the one I posted pics of last week? Gee, I hope so
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https://plus.google.com/photos/102864124129468059027/albums/5809383206289413137

If not, it would be great to see pics so I can adjust my design!

Joe

Thanks. I used Google's sketch-up.it's free and fairly easy to use.
I didn't think about venting and catching grease in the smoker. I'll do that and redesign.

The grill will be lined with firebrick and frequently used as a fireplace - burning grease off.

How do I calculate the size of the openings for the rocket stove? How do I optimize the length of the vertical stove pipe, the rise?
Is it trial and error? I plan to do some experimenting before I cement it up, but want to be in the ball park to start.

Thanks again,

Joe

Hello all - I put up some design pics of an outdoor kitchen I'm planning. I'm interested in feedback on the rocket stove end of it - the big cooker on the left end.
I'll be using it for making beer, apple butter, canning tomatoes, etc. Its a full size keg fit into half an oil barrel.

I'm wondering if I have the dimensions about right or if I'm heading for problems?
Should I or could I turn the end of the wood feeder hole up so I can put wood strait down into it?

The space around the barrel and stove pipe will be filled with vermiculite.

https://plus.google.com/photos/102864124129468059027/albums/5809383206289413137

Thanks for suggestions - I'm new to this!

Joe