Jake Milner

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We often hear and read alot about off grid lifestyle being many things. But there doesn't seem to much said about how it can affect your health. People often assume that your health improves because you're more in control of your life. And it does in the obvious ways. But I am here to say that there are those aspects of our lives that we aren't automatically in control of. That would be our minds.

My wife and I spent a few years researching alternative ways of life before deciding to finally go off grid five years ago. My dad was a house builder and I am pretty much a jack of all trades. So I was hardly intimidated by giving up all our possessions to clean the slate. And we have 3 kids. We hated constantly being hammered by bills and having companies drain our pockets. Conventional life is rigged to make slaves out of us all. And because it places money on a pedestal, it affects the family unity. We struggled.

We bought a 32ft travel trailer with cash. Then parked ourselves at my parents for one year to settle and decide what to do next. We constantly reorganized and made improvements to accommodate us and our kids. It's amazing how much needs to change. That is, if you put your kids first. And we always do. We also homeschool them and that made things easier.

After one year we found a property in the mountains. 20 acres of timber and a full time creek with the clearest water. We ultimately ended up with high powered solar panels tied into the camper. And a generator backup. Future plans were to eliminate the generator. Although we only used it during winter when sun was scarce. I washed clothes using the creek water and wash tubs. Line dry. I built a building that had a wood stove. So we washed and hung clothes there during winter. The building was really a porch on the side of the camper. Designed where the heat would rise up and through the camper doorway. Spreading throughout the place. Propane heat is wet and creates mold in the winter. Campers were not made for this. Wood heat is dry and efficient. Although its hard on paneled ceilings and they warp after awhile due to crappy insulation in the ceiling.

Our camper pad was up the hill from our main yard. So we used a large water tank to gravity feed a huge garden.

This is just giving you and idea of what we were doing and how it might have evolved if we had not stopped. All in all we spent four years there. The one thing I was not prepared for was a nervous breakdown. I was in the best physical health ever. I am naturally fast paced. I exercised and ran every day. I cut down trees and carried 8ft logs 400ft and across a creek. At some point i felt a knot on the back of my upper neck. Like kinked muscle. My daughter would massage it often. Which felt great. I chalked it up as stress related. I began having headaches, which I figured was coffee related. So I stopped drinking it cold turkey. That sent me to the ER having what turned out to be jitters. A first for me. My mood began swinging more often. I felt edgy and too in tune with nature. Super hearing. Some tinnitus on and off. I am naturally anxious which is what has helped me be such an attentive person. But I did not realize the implications at the time. My new lifestyle was actually pushing me closer to an edge I was already not far from. I began feeling tingles 24/7 in various parts of the body. And one day in town I got hit with vertigo for the first time. To make a long story short, I spent nearly a year in and out of ERs, dr offices, getting MRIs, blood tests, scans, ultrasounds, etc. They couldnt find anything. But my neck was failing me. I kept wanting to bend forward. So I took physical therapy and it helped. But when I stopped it would come right back. So I went again. My therapist said he thought I was stuck in "something" I couldnt get out of. That was the clue I needed. No doctor was clueing me in. So I found a psychologist. And that began to help. But I later found some info online about how anxious people end up trapped in fight or flight mode. In a hyper state. Where the body does all kinds of weird stuff. It was destroying me little by little until I learned to get rid of it. Just 4 months ago I thought I was gonna die. But after time, effort, and a wife and kids who love me, I have gotten myself back 85% so far. It's not a piece of cake. And it has made me realize that we spend so much time and energy running from things. Not realizing that most of our troubles are already inside. Hidden. Dig deep and fix your self. Then decide how you wanna live. You might have a change of mind.

We plan to go back into the off grid life. But partially. While it was nice having so much control over my life. It was also too much for my mind. Others might be different. But unless we can all share the burden and learn to not be overwhelmed, it'll get us one way or another. Thanks.

5 years ago
We're from KY. Because we have mountains, and plenty of hicks and amish to go along with it, there are zone free counties. We gave up our home 5 years ago to live off grid. And its been a big experience. Not all good. But thankfully I'm no dummy when it comes to bureaucracy. Even though our rural property was in a zone free county, when the inspector got wind that we set a camper there, he showed up to see where we put our sewage. First thing I let him know is that we don't live there. It was our property for recreation and farming. And that we transport our sewage every two weeks when we go home for the weekend. Truth is, we compost. But I would rather tell them something they understand. To shut them down using their own policies. If you don't admit you live some place, then you DON'T, unless they spend the time and money trying to prove otherwise. That's the thing with government. It's best to MYOB, don't go around telling on yourself. Stay private. Live in a gray area where the government is concerned. Then they can't touch you. People can't keep secrets. They like to talk. So living off grid is far more sustainable if done privately and secretly. As far as how much money you can save, you trade for labor and alternative methods. We had it made. Problem is it turns out I am a naturally anxious person who had a breakdown from the lifestyle. And it took almost a year of suffering to realize what was happening. When you live in the wild, your senses run closer to the fight or flight. Worrying and being careful can keep you on alert. Dogs barking often. Wondering if someone is coming down the drive. Ayehole neighbor who doesn't belong in the country. After a few years of being constantly "on" you can get stuck in fight or flight. Then you think youre dying of different illnesses. I am technically still recovering. And my itch to live off grid has evolved more into buying a cheapish home with acres and retrofitting the home SECRETLY to be more self sustaining.
5 years ago
Hi

I have researched as far as my eye can see. But just cannot find the exact information I am looking for.

We decided to build a DIY post frame home. We have very rocky, sandy soil. And our building pad is nice and level, setting halfway down a hillside. So drainage is excellent already. I believe the frost line in our level is 2 to 3 feet. Anyway. The home will be 24x36 using 6x6 treated posts, set 4ft in the ground on top of poured footers. The thing is. My wife wants me to do a slipform exterior wall around the house. I have no problem with this. Except I am not sure how to put footings in the ground to support it. Since there will undoubtedly be posts in there as well. The post footings will be 5ft down. Which is overkill for a slipform wall that isn't supporting anything. For the record, I am also planning to erect either a slipform or dry stack block for the interior wall. Both in and out walls with have R20 sheet insulation in between. And both will need the footings. I also plan to pour a floating slab. Which will be insulated underneath and around.

So the question is easy. How do I plan the make this all work? Getting the posts in the ground. Getting footings down and wide enough for interior and exterior slipform walls. And keep it all separate for a floating slab?

Thanks!  
8 years ago
Slipform seems like a great idea considering we have unlimited rocks and stones of every size here. I've never done it before. But would gladly learn the trade.

I am also toying with the idea of using a TROMBE WALL for the passive solar. We live in KY. So we have equal amounts of warm and cold. Sometimes more cold. Although I realize that sunlight may be limited at times. But its just my thinking to cut back on wood burning whenever the sun is shining. And also using the windows to heat up various objects in the house. I wonder if a slipform wall would still work as well for a trombe wall? My wife loves the idea of doing slipform for the whole house. Similar to this. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Finished_Slipform_Stone_House.jpg
8 years ago
Leila

Thanks for the great info. I like the straw/clay idea. I could probably make that work. We have virtually unlimited rock gravel, and sand where I live. Our clear water creek runs all year long. And never runs out of rock and sand. I never thought about the idea of making my own cement.
8 years ago
Thank you all for such good advice. In my area, most people still use traditional methods of construction which of course all require costly methods to heat and cool. I am open minded with alternative methods. But my experience is limited to traditional construction. So I guess there's more for me to look into before I begin. The reason I don't want a concrete floor is because it would require bringing in trucks and workers to do the job. Frankly, I want to do it all myself. And the cement and labor costs in this area are outrageous. Thus, I am looking for alternatives. We originally contemplated just building an underground concrete home, dry stacked, filled, and stucco. But the cost involved doesn't fit with our budget. This is all out of pocket. And we no longer deal with credit or banks. The whole idea is to be self sufficient, off grid, and "no longer part of the system". At least as much as possible.

We do receive a fair amount of sun low in the sky throughout the winter. But there's no doubt we get plenty of gray too. I was indeed thinking of the idea of putting up a wall of mass and letting the sun come into the front windows to hit it during the day. I just did not know if it would work incorporating it into the South facing wall, or if I needed to just put it up in the middle of the house. Possibly around the wood stove as mentioned before. It would certainly be much more economical for us to just put up a pole house using this method and foregoing the bermed hillside idea at this time.
8 years ago
Hi

My wife and I have been planning for years to get off the grid and live a simpler life on a small farm. We just spent the first year on our new property. It's been hard work living and learning to survive off the grid. Except I've had to cheat a little using my electric generator. lol. But we have a clear water creek that never dries up. So rain catching is unimportant. At this point, I am ready to begin constructing our house. I am pretty much a DIY guy with a construction background. So I will be doing it all by myself with occasional help from my wife and daughter. I am posting a photo that shows where we are. The top left of the photo shows where the main country road is. Our driveway comes down and around to meet where our camper is sitting. It can continue on down to the valley below. So we are actually setting midway down a hillside. We have a large pad roughed in. Our camper is setting on the entry way and I have a small temporary porch built onto the side for last winter. The rest of the pad is big enough to easily build a 24x36 home. We decided on a single story with a gambrel roof. With 4 bedrooms at one end and the rest open (vault style). It will most certainly be a post frame set up. And the roof will be rafters. The reason why I am posting here is because I want the house to be passive solar WITHOUT A CONCRETE FLOOR. I am new at the whole passive solar idea. But being off grid is important here. In the photo my camera is pointing East. So the hillside behind us is actually facing South. We have a host of trees around us. Pretty much a whole mountain behind us.

I was wondering if there is a way to build a pole building home into the hillside behind us, bermed in. Even if it meant the need to build a concrete wall on the bermed side as a "retaining wall" to make things safe. Does this make sense? Or would it likely be unnecessary in designing a passive solar setup?

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8 years ago
Hello

I have a 550 gallon horizontal leg plastic tank that I plan to use with catching rainwater for our sole water supply (minus drinking). I will be locating it up the hill from where we will be living. I don't know the exact elevation. But I suppose it will be like at least 20 feet higher than our faucets and at least 50 feet away. I plan to bury the tank halfway into the ground in hopes that will keep it from freezing in the winter. We dont usually have crazy winters in KY. But its always possible. Additionally, I plan to build a pole storage building around it with a nice roof for catchment. As well as room for some personal storage. At least until I get a second building put in later in the year. Anyway. The roof will be your typical metal roofing. I am thinking of using a mesh guard for the gutter. I prefer a closed system whenever possible. I will put in a first flush and just make sure I drain it. Would like to figure out an automated way of doing this if its possible. The bottom line is that I would like to get the water as filtered as possible PRE TANK. Which is course would require a rapid filtration process consider hard rains are a grande opportunity. I am a bit lacking in the knowledge of POST TANK filters. Since we are using a gravity system for our needs, I don't want to cut down the pressure too much. And I suppose a filter might become a hindrance. Furthermore, I would like to just pipe the water three feet underground from the tank to a simple water hydrant. Then hook a hose from that to run to our camper city hookup. But I dont know if that will cut down the pressure either.

Anyone knowledgeable in what I am trying to accomplish? I would appreciate any advice. Thanks. -- Joe
9 years ago
I can't believe not a single person spoke up against GMO in this thread. How do you spell POISON?

In our county, a few years ago, a farmer planted crops of GMO corn. It had a dramatic effect on other crops in the area. Because the bees were getting killed by the GMO crops. I personally raised nine kinds of Hell. Speaking out and raising awareness in our town. And guess what? No more GMO crops in our area. If anyone tries to bring one in, its likely that it will get sabotaged. We have zero tolerance for that sort of thing around here. At the very least, and the worst part, is what it does to the bees. People can argue all they want about it. But I have seen the damage. And if you happen to be someone who has a GMO neighbor, don't expect to reap much. At least not without major intervention. The best thing to do is burn down their crop. People need to wake up and stop showing tolerance for evil.
9 years ago