Julie Wolf

"Freddy", you suggested (not here, but in person) to strain the sluggoo.  Do you think I really need to? also do you think it needs diluting or would it be ok with diluting it so I can use it n all my garden beds and tree starts? I have several beds (4) and only one bucket where I collected my slugs all summer. And rereading this thread, I wonder if I should not use it if it smells bad (unlike manure bad)? Or maybe this time of year, fall, using it on beds before putting them to bed for the winter with manure compost and leaves, and adding (to the soil) my Bokashi bacteria juice and fermented food waste as I make it thru the winter (from kitchen scraps - see image), maybe it wont matter if "wrong" microbes are present? Maybe the good ones will win?

Your thoughts?

I too am following this thread closely. My new 2020 garden beds appreciate your input, as well as mine , LOL. Hopefully.

UPDATE: This last weekend the NW Permaculture Convergence was such a good experience for all who attended. There were benefits to having it online. We even managed to sing and dance together!
We recorded everything! And it will all be available to attendees - as soon as we can get it all uploaded. Tickets are still available for a little while if you want the recordings.  And all the downloads.
If you want a certain presentation or moment on the Schedule, let us know. Email us at info@northwestpermaculture.org or subscribe to the email list at www.northwestpermaculture.org

Hope to see you at one of our online meetups soon... or even a work party or farm tour.

2020 is a year for Cultivating Community! Through online presentations we will have presenters, artists and musicians talking permaculture!

The NW Permaculture Convergence is definitely happening, though virtually this year. https://www.northwestpermaculture.org/ T
With the muc anticipated theme form last year on Cultivating Community, we want to hear from the voices who have not been heard and create courageous safe spaces to share our hearts even if it hurts. It is time now.

2020 is clearly a year for People-Care and Fair-Share! We are planning on panel discussions on racial identity with safe-courageous spaces for healing (caucus style). We see small workshops being hosted across the region, with a digital home-base to keep us all connected. We will follow our traditional schedule of Thursday night to Sunday night, live-streaming opening and closing circles, keynotes and all workshops. A digital format anchored with real small gatherings across the land allows us to be super inclusive, flexible on our pricing and share the value of permaculture teaching for maximum impact.
Visit www.northwestpermaculture.org to submit your info to be a presenter, musician or artist considered for an offering at the first ever online Northwest Permaculture Convergence. We look forward to hearing from you! Thanks!

Here is Shaelee's invite (2 min vid) to this years Virtual NW Permaculture Convergence https://youtu.be/bhMgvIW2Y4g

Different for this year: there will be more scholarships and a low ticket price. Our children’s program is “at your own pace” with a digital color book you can print out, linked to videos of a short lesson plan and fun projects connected to each design principle. We will be donating 1/2 of all proceeds to social and environmental justice groups in alignment with permaculture ethos of earth-care, fair-share and people-care, do you have an organization we should support?
Please let us know! And get involved!

I support your journey and world culture view. Thank you for asking. I may know of a few places for your visit to Washington. Maybe Sahale in Tahuya WA as a work away? Maybe connect with folks attending the Sept 24-27 Permaculture Convergence to find more connections out here. Maybe Huckleberry and Ginger (Matlock WA) still want help. Please come connect with us  at NorthWestPermaculture.org and also here is the link to join Discord and come chat with us. NWPCC Board and other like minded-hearted people would like to invite you to this chatting platform to discuss permaculture like topics on Discord. https://discord.gg/ZRwRTPw
The NW Permaculture Convergence is definitely happening, though virtually this year. https://www.northwestpermaculture.org/ The theme is Cultivating Community and we want to hear from the voices who have not been heard and create courageous safe spaces to share our hearts even if it hurts.

I am helping Sahale present at NWPCC this year and our favorite opening is "The strength of Permaculture depends on the strength of our People-culture".

Here is Shaelee's invite (2 min vid) https://youtu.be/bhMgvIW2Y4g

I hope you engage! See you there?

Very useful info Darren Williams and S. Bengi. I read (scanned) the wikis and PNW Handbook on Slugs. From the later:

Biological control
Many birds, such as starlings, blackbirds, and killdeer, feed on slugs throughout the fall and winter months. Some predatory ground beetles and rove beetles feed on slugs. Naturally occurring fungal and bacterial pathogens, parasitic nematodes, and marsh fly larvae are potential biological control agents of slugs but are not commercially available for use in the United States at this time.

Some nematodes are lethal to slugs and snails, and one species, Phasmarhabditis hermaphrodita, has been used successfully in Europe as a commercially available biological control agent (Nemaslug®). This nematode is associated symbiotically with a bacterium that uses an endotoxin that kills a wide range of pest slugs and snail. After the slug dies, the nematodes multiply over the decaying slug body and then migrate back into the soil to infect more slugs if conditions are favorable. Phasmarhabditis hermaphrodita was recently found in Oregon and California, but Nemaslug® is not available in this country due to biosecurity reasons. Research focusing on discovering and testing pathogenic nematodes in the PNW will likely prove to be valuable for developing biological control agents for slugs and snails. "

The article was revised last a year ago May 2019. I wonder if progress has been made for us in the PNW now that our slug Nemotode in question had been found in Oregan and California. Oh I hope so.
I wonder if I should try anyway this slug soup/ compost-tea idea anyway. I hope we hear from Ferdy in WA on how his experiments started last Dec are going: His post is here: https://permies.com/forums/t/127682/soil/Slugs-compost-tea-bouquet-fertility

Rob Lineberger wrote:The ones that work, but are lethal,  are:

beer traps
flashlight at night with scissors in hand

Ones that don't work are:
diatomaceous earth
crushed eggshells

one promising trick i heard but haven't tried is putting a board in the middle of the garden bed.  Slugs will crawl under it to hide.  scrape them off into your location of choice.
But copper has worked really well for me, both on my containers and my raised beds.  This approach could even be used to make "plant scrunchies" that wrap around the stem of the plant, but that seems like a lot of work. I made a facebook album about it that is public so I hope it works:  
https://www.facebook.com/rob.lineberger/media_set?set=a.10222610153064750&type=3

Thanks for the concise lists of what worked and did not.  I am making DIY slug bait traps with 1 Pt yeast, 2 pts sugar, 2 pts flour in yougurt-type tubs with lids (stops rain) and side holes.  Nemotodes is my next new anti-slug try.
Checking out your Facebook - oops link broken.

I make a home made DIY slug biat which seems to attract and drown small slugs (attract but not keep the big slugs). Now I am trying Nemotodes. I feel your pain. I can not find the product to buy anywhere in USA.
Do you know about slug-killing nemotodes? If they are native in your soil you can grow your own.
I want to learn more about slug-killing nemotodes,  if they are native in my (USA) soil I can grow my own (a cost saving vs buying NemoSlug even if I could find it - which I can not). Here is the thread I started on it - with the How to DIY video link, it may be worth a try.
https://permies.com/t/142460/DIY-Slug-Killing-Nemotodes
also search Sluggo here on permies. I just read someone making a slug compost tea experiment.  Or look at my comments in my profile maybe?

Slugs die in ashes? really? hows that going btw?
Do you know about slug-killing nemotodes and if they are native in the USA soil to grow your own?
I want to learn more about slug-killing nemotodes,  if they are native in the USA soil and how to  grow your own (a cost saving vs buying NemoSlug even if I could find it - which I can not). Here is the thread I started on it - with the How to DIY video link.
https://permies.com/t/142460/DIY-Slug-Killing-Nemotodes

OMG! You are in Mason County WA? Me too!!!  North Mason Co (Belfair/Tahuya). A close by permie person - oh my! AND I am researching DIY NemoSlug (slug killing nemotodes). Your Slug tea would grow these specific nematodes, if they are indeed present native in our soils.
Did you work out an aerator? Did you test your soil microbes under microscope (Elaine Ingham style?)  We want to buy an aerator (havnt even done any research on it yet) and start inoculating our biochar with compost tea.
I like your idea of adding slugs to the comfrey/nettle aerobic tea. Lets talk!

Do you know about slug-killing nemotodes and if they are native in the USA/PNW, Mason Co even better! - what do you think based on your tests??

I want to learn more about slug-killing nemotodes,  if they are native in the USA soil and how to  grow your own (a cost saving vs buying NemoSlug even if I could find it - which I can not). Here is the thread I started on it - with the How to DIY video link.
https://permies.com/t/142460/DIY-Slug-Killing-Nemotodes

Want to connect? Purple-Moose me (aka PM me).

I want to learn more about slug-killing nemotodes,  if they are native in the USA soil (as they seem to be in the UK for sure) and how to  grow your own (a cost saving vs buying NemoSlug). Did you try theses nemotodes? Seems your slug soup would grow the nemotode concentration in your soil.
Here is the thread I started on it - with the How to DIY video link.
https://permies.com/t/142460/DIY-Slug-Killing-Nemotodes