Inga Able

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Hi there,

I am looking for a recommendation to put some form of UV sterilization in line before the water inlet into my swimming pond. The water coming in is already pretty clean as it has undergone extensive wetland filtration. But there will be kids swimming in this pond/pool, so I would like to put in an additional sterilization step. Problem is, the water coming into the pond is gravity fed. I can't seem to find any gravity operated UV systems. Ideas?
The swimming pond does not have other filtration systems, as it relies on plant filtration and has a decent amount of water exchange through inlet & outlet. I guess I could put in a pressurized pond water filter system, and have the inlet run into that system (as well as feeding the system from the return from the pond)? But I rather avoid pumps in general.

Thanks!
4 years ago
I believe guilds actually aren't that new of a concept. When I grew up in north-eastern Germany, our fruit trees had currants, brambles, parsley, chives and borage planted under them, as well as numerous medicinal plants, herbs and flowers that I couldn't identify as a kid. Not for space reasons either, they were there on purpose. We also had relatively wild beds of rapunzel, salsify and what I think translates as Scorzonera (Schwarzwurzel) in between and under the fruit trees. There was also some weird legume looking vining plant that made an edible tuber. My grandmother grew all sorts of weird medieval food plants under her fruit trees that are not frequently cultivated today.
I also once visited a very old wild orchard outside of Goettingen, Germany that had herbs and flowers freely spreading and reseeding under the fruit trees.
So I think the guild concept was already there a long time ago. I mean, think about those 13th - 18th century orchards in Europe. Of course the fruit cultivars were more hardy than what we grow today, but pests and diseases did exist and people had no access to any form of modern chemicals etc., even deer fencing was much harder than it is today. Planting plants that support those fruit trees to be healthier seems like the logical solution. Considering all the medicinal knowledge that was lost over time, I'm pretty sure that concepts like guild planting were just lost during the industrialization of food production. If you look back at ancient Rome's kitchen & fruit gardens, we have records of even them growing herbs and food crops under their fruit trees. Considering that they were the first civilization (on record) that put a serious effort into fruit tree cultivation and cultivar selection, I would say that guild concepts are probably as old as fruit tree cultivation itself. Records show that romans definitely grew garlic, coriander, chick pea, fennel, flax and all sorts of beans under their fruit trees, and that's just what has been confirmed. Likely, they grew all sorts of old food crops under them like Reichardia picroides and other plants nobody grows for food any more. Some of the roman garden manuals even mention the plant feeding effects of legume family plants. There are also records of many of the above mentioned plants being grown under the olive, date, pine, peach, plum, apricot & almond trees in Egypt around the same time period. So yeah. Can we really say someone invented guilds? They might have been called something different before. But come on people. The idea to grow fruit trees on what is pretty much a grass lawn is a relatively new one historically. Remember that most of those grassy areas today used to be woods until we humans cut all the trees down and eradicated all the shrubs and other plants so that we could run livestock on pastures. Go look at some of those animated deforestation maps of Europe for example. Same thing with the US. Wherever modern humans settled, they turned woodland areas and diverse mixed biotopes into grass pastures until today, we are dealing with an incredible amount of grass in most areas with human civilization. But reality is, that this grass dominated lawn type stuff that we grow commercial orchards on these days, or what most people grow their home orchards on, that grass dominated lame approach is a very modern development. Go a few hundred years back and things get way more diverse, shrubby, herby, flowery, with all sorts of funky food plants in between. So I think it is a lot more safe to say that our messed up modern approach to fruit tree cultivation is slowly rediscovering the benefits of a diverse and supportive understory in our orchards. It is in no way a new concept. Humans just got stupid for a while.
4 years ago
Regarding your cat issue, I have found a great solution to my cats using the fresh, lose dirt around newly planted plants as their litter box, often destroying said plants. I live in the PNW so I always have plenty volunteer blackberry vines popping up all over the place. In certain areas I pull them, in others I just cut the vines off at dirt level. Either way, I always have plenty of them. So I started using them as ground covering mulch around my newly planted plants, covering exposed dirt. With some good gloves and hand clippers, its an easy task to clip the vines into the desired length and place them around the little plants in a way that doesn't hinder or harm them. It is extremely effective regarding the cats. And acts as a form of mulch at the same time. I even started doing it in my raised garden beds when my cats were trying to kill my little zucchini plants. Of course it isn't really feasible around things like lettuce or other plants that you will harvest soon or at a small stage. But with larger veggie plants or young perennials, it works great. By the time you need to seriously access those plants, most of the blackberry vines are gone. Some of the thick stems might be left, but I have also just mulched over them in the past, they disappear eventually. Careful of course in areas where you or your family might walk barefoot. But if your cat problem is as bad as mine was, the management effort is well worth the reward of not getting your plants dug up.  
4 years ago
I was in north eastern Germany, about 30 miles from the polish border. Lots of them there everywhere, even along roadsides. Now that I’m in the US I usually buy seeds in bulk online. Fedco sells them and if I just want cheap seeds for lots of rootstock, this Amazon offer from MySeeds has germinated at a surprisingly high rate for me, as far as I can tell is growing strong rootstocks and 400 seeds for $14 are hard to beat.
BIG PACK - (400) Antonovka Apple - Malus pumila Antonovka Seeds - Very COLD Hardy Zone 3+ Grown for its Rootstock used for Grafting - Non-GMO Seeds by MySeeds.Co (Big Pack - Apple Antonovka) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0859LVYWM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6Z79B5ZNSD9RG82BF4S7
4 years ago
Antonovka grows incredibly well from seed and is one of the only apples that grow true from seed. Probably because it is so old and stable. I have also found that Antonovka rootstocks I grew from seed myself were much healthier (as in grew better roots) than the ones I purchased. They only need 6 weeks of stratification (just pop them in the fridge in a baggie of moist soil), then plant in a starter mix, keep moist at around 60-70 degrees and you will see germination in about 10 days. I have been known to put very large amounts of Antonovka seeds into my fridge (after buying and eating lots of Antonovka apples) and then just planting the seeds in various locations all over the place in the ground, where I thought I might want apple trees in the future. I place 3-5 seeds per location a few inches apart, because germination outside can be iffy. If you have more than one come up, you can always transplant. But I have NEVER seen rootstock vigor like and in place seeded Antonovka anywhere else. Those trees are so pretty and locally adapted, you almost don’t want to cut them off and graft. And it’s fine if you don’t. Antonovka is a sublime baking & cooking apple. Best applesauce ever. Decent cider. There are plenty better fresh eating apples obviously. But before buying mediocre rootstocks, if time is not a factor, I’d highly recommend growing Antonovka from seed. Even if you grow them in pots, they will likely be far superior to a bundle of rootstocks you buy off the Internet.
4 years ago
Hey Folks,
I‘m a big fan of standard size high vigor rootstocks for both longevity and disease & pest resistance of the overall tree.
Usually grafting onto Antonovka. What can I say, I’m german. I like old reliable Russian work horses. And they are so easy to grow from seed.
Problem is, I’m currently planning a new project in coastal Oregon. And have little to no experience with some of the scions I have decided I want to grow there.
So I would really appreciate if some of the Americans in here could chime in and let me know if the following scions should graft well onto Antonovka. Alternatively I can always use M-111 I guess. Would really like to get my hands on some G.890. Has anyone tried G.890? I hear & read very good things about it. I generally refuse to grow on anything smaller than M-111. Don’t get me started. But G.890 seems to be quite the bomb. Would love to hear some feedback.
Anyhow. Below are my planned scions. Trying to stick to at or below 1,000 chill hours, because I’m not certain I have more reliably.
If anyone has seen these perform on Antonovka, I would love a thumbs up. I mean, everything grows on Antonovka, right?! I’m just a little antsy with some of those modern bred disease resistant american cultivars I’ve never seen. I mean, are there any reasons modern scions like Belmac or Enterprise WOULDN’T do well on Antonovka? The older American varieties should definitely be fine, right?
Thanks guys.
Here we go.

Totally unsure I am about:
(Anna) because global warming?
Akane
Spartan
Belmac
Liberty
Enterprise

Then pretty sure will be fine is:
William’s Pride
Pink Pearl
Wynoochee Early
Gravenstein (Not so sure I want to grow it actually, how is it with diseases in the PNW?)
Arlie Red Flesh
Pendragon (if I could just find one!)
Lemon Pippin
Baldwin
Ashmead’s Kernel
Winesap

What I definitely know does well on Antonovka is:
Golden Russet
Roxbury Russet
Hudson’s Gold
Zabergau Renette
Bramley
Boskoop
Gold Rush

So, what do you all think? Look like a decent selection for coastal OR? Let me tell you, it’s not easy to start growing on a different continent. I was very tempted to smuggle in my favorite scions from Germany (didn’t of course). But then I remembered local adaptation is a thing, so yeah. Mostly American apples it is. Never tried anything red fleshed, those are really just experiments.
Anyhow. If you all could let me know on the rootstock compatibility, I would appreciate it.
And in general, what I might need to consider growing apples in mid coastal Oregon.
I’m big on soil nutrition & biome optimization and amend with charged biochar, azomite, composted manures and several types of fertilizer & compost teas. Also grow a diverse understory of herbs, berries & flowers. Soil is heavily mulched. In Germany I got away with a zero intervention approach, because I grew mostly highly disease resistant or generally hardy scions on high vigor rootstocks in an optimized ecological environment. Can I get away with the same thing here? Some of the scions stock out as being too finicky? Flowering groups are covered, I’m aware of all the triploids in there. Will plant a few white & pink crabapples and usually graft a pollination branch onto triploids.
Anyway. Sorry for the novel. Really appreciate the input.





4 years ago