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Apple trees in shade & Antonovka rootstock

 
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Most of my apple trees I've planted this past year are in full sun and are growing well.  I have about 3/4 of an acre that is heavily wooded with some sun pockets from the overstory and was wondering if there are apple trees or crabapple trees that can grow in shade? I do not want to clear any more land on my property as I have already cleared space for my kitchen garden.

When I've see wild apple trees in the woods it is usually in the understory and mostly shaded - I've observed this in nature but do you think it is possible in my context? Does it just slow the growth of the tree? I'm fine with that and waiting but I also don't want to waste my time planting 25 trees.

This is separate question but can you purchase Antonovka Apple rootstock and just grow it out for Antonovka apples?  I'm seeing the rootstock is much cheaper than nurseries are selling whips for planting.  It makes sense but I wasn't sure if something is done to the rootstock when it is used primarily for rootstock.
 
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...can you purchase Antonovka Apple rootstock and just grow it out for Antonovka apples?  I'm seeing the rootstock is much cheaper than nurseries are selling whips for planting.


The root stock should be just fine.  I think that the huge difference in price is a supply/demand issue.  Somebody buying a tree for planting wants a fruit tree for their yard.  Somebody buying root stock is most likely a commercial enterprise who plans on grafting, and then selling apple trees.  Commercial interests expect to pay less than a home owner would.

I have heard mixed reviews on the Antonovka apple.  Some say that its texture is not that great.  Probably perfectly fine for juice/cider, or cooking purposes.  On the other hand, Antonovka is highly sought after in most of Russia, and parts of Poland.  
 
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C Gallas wrote:
This is separate question but can you purchase Antonovka Apple rootstock and just grow it out for Antonovka apples?  I'm seeing the rootstock is much cheaper than nurseries are selling whips for planting.  It makes sense but I wasn't sure if something is done to the rootstock when it is used primarily for rootstock.



this is what i plan to do.
i plan to mass plant them in areas where animals can harvest the fruit drop. I will go back and selectively graft specific trees with "human grade apples" once i have a better idea of what their growing habits are.

 
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We have a "little green apple" tree on the north side of a copse of woods that's been there since we moved in.  It's definitely growing mostly in the shade so your plan should work.  Now I am thinking that plan might be a good idea for me too.  Where were you going to buy the rootstock from?
 
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Raintree has it cheap. Around 3.00.
 
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If you are looking for Antonovka root stock (in bulk - 25 or more), try Lawyer Nursery in Montana

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Ghislaine de Lessines wrote:We have a "little green apple" tree on the north side of a copse of woods that's been there since we moved in.  It's definitely growing mostly in the shade so your plan should work.  Now I am thinking that plan might be a good idea for me too.  Where were you going to buy the rootstock from?



Thanks for the links to the rootstock. I was just going to buy from FEDCO, I'm only looking to do a small amount of trees.  They are like $2.50 a piece I think in bundles of 10. They have super interesting scion wood-  great old maine heirloom apples.
 
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C Gallas wrote:

Thanks for the links to the rootstock. I was just going to buy from FEDCO, I'm only looking to do a small amount of trees.  They are like $2.50 a piece I think in bundles of 10. They have super interesting scion wood-  great old maine heirloom apples.



I just got my FEDCO catalog yesterday and noticed the bundle of 10 was almost $30 so maybe the price went up this year.  Sounds about like Raintree though.  
 
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