Maieshe Ljin wrote:Some simple tongs I made. Except that they seem to bend out of shape easily if I try to pick up anything too large. Maybe there are ways of changing this? Hardening the metal more?
Josh Warfield wrote:
Anne Miller wrote:
. I'm not even vegetarian, but I do feel a little weird about slaughtering calves (or lambs or kids). Especially if I went to a lot of trouble to bring those calves into existence.
Seems strange to even consider this when it is so easy to sell the calves.
Right, I could sell them, but if the person I'm selling to is taking them straight to the slaughterhouse, then it's the same thing to me. I'm not just saying I'm squeamish about killing and processing an animal; I grew up hunting so I crossed that bridge a long time ago. What I am uneasy about is this process of knowingly producing more babies than is feasible to raise to adulthood, and then more or less immediately killing some percentage of them (or having someone else do that for me, all the same). That just seems like a bridge too far, somehow. And what I'm wondering is if that's truly necessary, or if it's only necessary from the perspective of turning a profit, which is not my goal.
If I sell them to someone who does intend to actually raise them, I can't help but think that I'm just postponing the issue. A couple years down the line those people are going to have calves they need to sell, and maybe they sell to a third person who will also care for them well. But if every year more babies are born than adults die, eventually all the like-minded people in the area would have as many animals as they can handle, and then we're collectively in the same position that I individually started out in.
I guess I was hoping to hear that it's hypothetically possible to only make babies at replacement rate, and still get some amount of milk beyond what the calves drink. I don't think anyone so far has said that's actually impossible, but it sounds like almost nobody is even trying to do it, primarily because of the money side of things. Is that an accurate summary?