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Russia wants to eliminate GMOs
US Govt seemingly wants to eliminate non-GMOs


the swamp that is the US Regulatory Agencies needs draining


https://www.hcn.org/issues/50.11/plants-genetically-modified-grass-creeps-across-eastern-oregon

GMO grass is creeping across Oregon
Missteps by agribusiness giants allowed the invasion. Now they’re off the hook for cleanup.
6 days ago


from Geoff's weekly e-mail  about invasives

http://www.animals24-7.org/2018/05/15/aussie-prof-challenges-invasion-biologists-on-their-own-turf/?inf_contact_key=4dd4114ac4f465ddb4c707a9893e63f19c8f4282ab12facada8e8264777344bb
Aussie prof challenges “invasion biologists” on their own turf


https://www.amazon.com/New-Wild-Invasive-Species-Salvation/dp/0807039551?inf_contact_key=28c848cd3b0a9e81989dcd66150151ca3c8b58f2ba6287bfbecec9c409cdc2c1

The New Wild: Why Invasive Species Will Be Nature's Salvation Paperback – April 5, 2016
by Fred Pearce (Author)


https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-War-Invasive-Species-Permaculture/dp/160358563X?inf_contact_key=c840bc7ddb3220dfa4f5c1b304cc33b8700815e79eac16f040f9ec28ef5463e4


Beyond the War on Invasive Species: A Permaculture Approach to Ecosystem Restoration Paperback – July 3, 2015
by Tao Orion (Author),



when one wishes a civil discussion with another
the place to start is before  there is disagreement
what can we agree on before we disagree?

asking a few questions would be a good place to start

Question #1:
"Do Humans have a place in nature?"


Many Conservationists/environmentalists and nativists feel that nature has suffered since 1492.
any alien introductions by indigenous people , animals, or storms before hand were positive
The belief being that everything was  perfect before 1492

This is the view of many environmental departments of universities and governments,
many State, local and federal parks and lands are administrated that way
(let's return the land to it's "natural" state)



many universities have "big agriculture" and tree hugging conservation/environmental departments
at odds with each other. the view is that you either ,"clear cut" or abandon the woodlot,
that is the choice.

So the students (and future government administrators) see these as the two opposing sides

Answer to #1:
NO, (white)humans only harm things



permaculutre philosophy should be directed toward those with the above views.
(unfortunately, permaculture has very little presence on university campuses
usually reserved to those living in yurts in the woods.)

"Humans" , including those evil white ones, can and should
have a place in agriculture, environmental restoration, and evolution's direction
The belief being that nothing is perfect both before and after 1492
(and humans have an important role to play)



Answer to #1:

There is an alternative way
a profitable alternative to big ag that protects and restores the environment

So the first discussion to have with the native tree-huggers
is the positive role that humans and permaculture can have




4 weeks ago


from the first article:

As to how that could have happened, it's unclear. A likely possibility is the occurrence of a sudden event that caused large-scale environmental trauma and wiped out majority of the Earth's species.

"Viruses, ice ages, successful new competitors, loss of prey — all these may cause periods when the population of an animal drops sharply," explains Jesse Ausubel, director of the Program for the Human Environment.

Such times give rise to sweeping genetic changes across the planet, causing new species to appear. However, the last time such an occurrence took place was 65 million years ago, when an asteroid hit the Earth and killed off the dinosaurs and half of all other species on the planet.




so the question is:
what happened 200,000 +/- yrs ago
to cause this  worldwide reset?
do we see anything in the geological record to point a finger at?
1 month ago

won't someone think about the children?

"all god's children gotta be fed"

http://www.bringingnaturehome.net/gardening-for-life.html

the book  Bringing Nature Home by University of Delaware professor Doug Tallamy.
I have not read the book but have encountered several speakers who have talked about it

When we present insects from Pennsylvania with plants that evolved on another continent, chances are those insects will be unable to eat them. We used to think this was good. Kill all insects before they eat our plants! But an insect that cannot eat part of a leaf cannot fulfill its role in the food web. We have planted Kousa dogwood, a species from China that supports no insect herbivores, instead of our native flowering dogwood (Cornus florida) that supports 117 species of moths and butterflies alone. In hundreds of thousands of acres we have planted goldenraintree from China instead of one of our beautiful oaks and lost the chance to grow 532 species of caterpillars, all of them nutritious bird food.  My research has shown that alien ornamentals support 29 times less biodiversity than do native ornamentals.




Homeowners can do this by planting the borders of their properties with native trees plants such as white oaks (Quercus alba), black willows (Salix nigra), red maples (Acer rubrum), green ashes (Fraxinus pennsylvanica), black walnuts (Juglans nigra), river birches (Betula nigra) and shagbark hickories (Carya ovata), under-planted with woodies like serviceberry (Amelanchier canadensis), arrowwood (Viburnum dentatum), hazelnut (Corylus americnus), blueberries (Vaccinium spp) . Our studies have shown that even modest increases in the native plant cover on suburban properties significantly increases the number and species of breeding birds, including birds of conservation concern. As gardeners and stewards of our land, we have never been so empowered to help save biodiversity from extinction, and the need to do so has never been so great. All we need to do is plant native plants!




1 month ago




http://www.techtimes.com/articles/228798/20180530/massive-genetic-study-reveals-90-percent-of-earth-s-animals-appeared-at-the-same-time.htm

Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Landmark new research that involves analyzing millions of DNA barcodes has debunked much about what we know today about the evolution of species.

In a massive genetic study, senior research associate at the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University Mark Stoeckle and University of Basel geneticist David Thaler discovered that virtually 90 percent of all animals on Earth appeared at right around the same time.

More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

"This conclusion is very surprising," says Thaler, "and I fought against it as hard as I could."

1 month ago

"when their ships come in, too many people are at the train station"

the place where you can be the most help
may not be obvious to you when your focus is too narrow

maybe a refocus is needed
rather than aiming at "goals", look for systems
to build skills for when that lucky break appears.
"lucky breaks" happen often but only those prepared can take advantage of them

computer skills  -
organizing or management experience -
heavy equipment operation -
public speaking experience -
a  "rolodex" of different contacts -
etc
will all make "lucky breaks" more frequent
you can never tell who might come up to you at a community event where you're doing something.........








1 month ago


how do outside "experts" work with communities?

1. find an local champion
2. start small
3. be patient





so whether it's water catchment systems, community gardens, housing, etc
the approach is the same
educate and build trust
and I would add - approach clients as equals




go where the need and opportunity exists
there's more to permaculture than just urban farming (but that may get your foot in the door)




Scott Adams talks with the amazing Bill Pulte, founder of Blight Authority


https://www.theblightauthority.com/

The Blight Authority




I think all we can do is offer people "equality of opportunity"
if we are concerned about the lack of some section of the population in permaculture
demonstrate the value of permaculture to them
and let them make their own decision

here Val is doing a project right where the target audience lives




hi Chris,

He's not talking about what most people would consider diversity.

From just the first dozen minutes or so, he's essentially likening his experience in the military, which was a functioning multicultural community, in essence, with failed community in a permacultural context.

I don't know why he's phrased it the way he has, because his message is more along the lines of, "Gee, I wish everyone was on the same permacultural page as I am."

The problem I see is where he's on page, say, thirty-one, and I am on page three-sixty-one. Or vice versa, but you get the point.



welcome to the ulcer factory
you are correct in saying that he isn't talking about the same "diversity" as most people think
what many people think is good is to have as many different types as possible for "diversity"
but planting Bradford pears, asiatic bittersweet, garlic mustard,  and multiflora rose or introducing emerald ash borer   to your food forest is problematic
because they do not share the same values or follow the same rules (cooperation) as those plants you normally want in your food forest

one could use a food forest as an analogy for a permaculture community
selective diversity working toward a common goal

If you want a "permaculture community" or any other community, there needs to be common goals or you don't have a community
it's not  what level the person is on, his/her color , ethnic background, or sexual preference, 
but what direction he/she wants to go, do they want to work with the community or against it
(the point Clint was making about Paul's podcasts)

It is also something the governments of Sweden, Germany and other European countries should have asked.............



1 month ago