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As a preamble, Paul talks a bit about the upcoming PDC/ATC. If people want more events like this, then they need to sign up. PEP 1 event has a few spots left, and the PEP documents are getting done.

The Kickstarter has been funded! It was funded in 3 hours. Over 5000 books have been pre-ordered. Paul is working on stretch goals and a whole pile of goodies.

Vegan vs Omnivore vs Junk food

Paul and Shawn worked hard to make this chapter respectful to vegans. Fred even reviewed it. Paul has great respect for vegans. He also thinks that the current labels applied to vegans are insufficient to cover the spectrum of vegan choices. Vegans can be on a spectrum of all natural food kind, to the Diet Coke and Oreo kind.

The choice between vegan and omnivore isn’t clear cut. The food systems of omnivores can kill fewer animals than industrial vegan farming. You can have farm animals can have a positive effect on the environment, and you can have organic farms that are just as bad a conventional farms. Studies that compare vegan vs omnivore, often compare healthy vegan diets to bad omnivore diets. A more fair comparison would show them to be much more equal. Paul wants to start using the word “virgin” to describe foods that are not highly processed. Virgin foods are more likely to be healthy than non-virgin(highly processed). VO would be virgin organic. VOV would be virgin organic vegan. VORP would be virgin organic rich soil and polyculture to describe food grown with Permaculture practices.

The carbon footprint of conventional diet is significant and choosing a vegan diet is better. However, you can make more savings choosing better growing techniques like pastured animals.  If you grow a forest garden according to VORP(Permaculture) food, you can get to negative carbon footprint.

Relevant Threads

Better World Book Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/better-world-book?ref=b817zl
Permies Post for Kickstarter and Stretch Goals: https://permies.com/t/bwb
Permies Book Review Grid: https://permies.com/w/book-reviews
VORP Food: https://permies.com/t/vorp

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