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Summary

part 2 of a 2 part podcast

Paul and others continue to discuss improvements to the rocket mass heater in the library, and rocket heaters in general.

Paul comments that a pebble style mass as previously in the library can be moved and rebuilt someplace else, which you can't do with cob.  However there's a trade-off that initially the rocket heats the mass more slowly.

Peter is invited to comment on the rebuild.  He re-iterates the point that bypasses and such are prone to human error.  

He has the following comments:

* 4" flue is only a quarter the area of 8", so it's too small.  6" could even give problems.

* A given size batch box is about twice the power of a J tube, but you do need a bigger/better heat extraction to use the heat efficiently.  Peter has a build with a tall stratification chamber, about 6ft high and maybe 2ft x 2ft footprint.

* He suggests making the connection from the rocket heater to the stratification chamber larger.  There's no need for restriction at that point and a wider connection will speed up heat transfer to the chamber.  He also points out that without a single flue (as with a mass) more fly ash might gather in the stratification chamber.

Paul feels not enough has yet been done to improve efficiency when the stove is not burning which is what they are experimenting with on this build.  For example, the smaller exhaust should conduct less cold air in from the outside when not burning, and kissing the barrel mitigates the possible draw issues with the smaller exhaust.

The last part of the podcast has some questions and answers from the live session.

Paul finishes up by stating his position that anyone starting out in rocket heaters should start with a J tube as it's a simpler build.  Batch boxes are harder to build if you don't already have the skills, so it's easier to get it wrong. Peter agrees that the batch box is more complex to build but the payoff is bigger as well.  Paul reasons that as the batch box burns more wood, faster it is better suited to places like a workshop or cabin where you want heat fast.

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pebble style rocket mass heater in the library

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