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part 1 of a 2 part podcast

Paul consults with Bonnie Bassan about her property in New Mexico

She has about a half acre lot, pretty much flat with a smallish house.  Part of it has a leach field for the septic tank.  The ground is mostly clay and not much grows there.  They get about 10" of precipitation; it can get as low as 0°F in winter and there's quite a lot of wind. There's a well, which makes Paul happy, and an old chicken coop.

As usual, Paul suggests hügelkulturs.  Jeff P asks in the chat where are the logs gonna come from:  There's a dead tree but it may not be enough.  However Paul suggests building the hügelkulturs by digging down about 3ft, and using the clay/dirt which is dug out to build up about 4ft.  This gets you a 7ft hügelkultur with less wood and dirt/soil required.  The hügelkulturs are going to need irrigation for the first few years to build soil.

He also suggests making taller hügelkulturs around the boundary, leaving some gaps for access.  The best way to make tall hügelkulturs is to hire an excavator for day.  By putting the hügelkulturs at different angles, they will create shelter from the wind, and the lowered paths will help to retain the rain when it happens.  The exception will be the leach field for the septic tank, which you don't want to build on.

Bonnie was thinking of importing manure to improve the soil, but Paul is wary of manure, it's hard to get known organic manure with no toxic gick (in this case, persistent herbicides which have a half-life of 7-10 years).  A good tip when sourcing manure is to ask if it's likely to contain a lot of weed seeds: if they say "no, it's fine", then they probably use weedkiller.  The same applies to some chicken manure in the old coop: it depends what the chickens were fed on.

Paul suggests planning out the hügelkulturs on paper to see where they can go, as Bonnie already has a drawing of the plot.

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I listened about four times, and I'm still a little unclear about one detail.

The "paths" between one "hugel mound" and the next or 6 to 8 feet wide, and they're dug down 3 feet below grade, is that right?  Where is it 3 feet below grade 3 feet wide trench, and then a grade level path that you can drive a vehicle on or something between two mounds, then another 3 foot deep 3 foot wide trench?  And if the Hugo beds are 7 feet wide, is that the above grade part that is being measured, or from the lowest point of one trench/path to the lowest point of the next trench/path?

I'm assuming that it's one trench, no vehicle access needed, and that the 7' is the above-grade portion, and the 6-8' is the below-grade trench width.  That does make the mound much less steep than Paul was gesturing in the video.

Or is the 6-8' wide a flat path area below grade from the point where one mound hits its bottom to the place where the next one begins to rise from 3' below-grade?

I'll attempt to draw it but not sure I can get the technology to do what I want.

 
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I listened about four times, and I'm still a little unclear about one detail.

The "paths" between one "hugel mound" and the next or 6 to 8 feet wide, and they're dug down 3 feet below grade, is that right?  Where is it 3 feet below grade 3 feet wide trench, and then a grade level path that you can drive a vehicle on or something between two mounds, then another 3 foot deep 3 foot wide trench?  And if the Hugo beds are 7 feet wide, is that the above grade part that is being measured, or from the lowest point of one trench/path to the lowest point of the next trench/path?

I'm assuming that it's one trench, no vehicle access needed, and that the 7' is the above-grade portion, and the 6-8' is the below-grade trench width.  That does make the mound much less steep than Paul was gesturing in the video.

Or is the 6-8' wide a flat path area below grade from the point where one mound hits its bottom to the place where the next one begins to rise from 3' below-grade?

I'll attempt to draw it but not sure I can get the technology to do what I want.

 
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“I'm assuming that it's one trench, no vehicle access needed, and that the 7' is the above-grade portion, and the 6-8' is the below-grade trench width.  That does make the mound much less steep than Paul was gesturing in the video.”

It looks like waaaay too much soil removed from below grade to make the above-grade mound.



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