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Summary

part 3 of a 3 part podcast

Andreas, Paul and Samantha continue the discussion about homestead gumption.

Andreas now wants to discuss the difference between a "homestead" and a "permaculture homestead".  Samantha feels that permaculture design means that everything you do is with an eye to the long term future.

Paul defines permaculture as a more symbiotic relationship with nature so he can be even lazier.  Typical homesteads will have a garden in perfect rows with no weeds.  Paul wants his homestead to work without him - systems that are self-sustaining for weeks or months.  Paul's plans are less of a map and more of a list of things he wants to achieve.  Working through the list allows him to learn more about his property, which then revises the list.  If you make a map you tend to become a slave to it.

Andreas feels there's an issue with putting too much energy into things that won't improve your quality of life in the short term.  Paul agrees, suppose you have 10 acres: limit yourself to a quarter of an acre for the first year rather than trying to do everything at once.

The next point raised is what kind of short term tasks can bring gumption back.  Samantha says being able to sit down at the table and eat the food you have raised is a great motivator.  Tomatoes, sunchokes, kale, walking onions all require little effort and give great rewards.  Paul doesn't like goals, as they can become poison.

Andreas thinks you need to take time to appreciate what you have achieved.  Paul recalls when he first got base camp and it was just rock, and now there's stuff growing everywhere.

They talk a bit about frugality.  Paul doesn't like the word as it suggests sacrifice.  He prefers gertitude, which implies abundance, so you don't need money.  Samantha feels that for her frugality is making your own stuff, not buying it.  She prefers to make stuff from what she has or can find.

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