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compostable vacuum bags and sealer appliances

 
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Does anybody have experiences they can speak to with the handful of compostable vacuum bags on the market now? (Mid-2021).

This site lists a few options.
- Grounded Packaging Co (country of origin unclear, though they have purchase sites for US, UK, NZ, AUS)
- Eco Bag (made in & ships from UK)
- Salt of the Earth Packaging (made in & ships from NZ)

Other products I've found online:
- Sustaina-Pouch (EU based)
- VestaEco (US based)
- Econic Packaging (only tested in "snorkel" sealers, NZ based)

Several of these list that they're tested for in-chamber vacuum sealers, which are more common at the commercial and industrial level of appliance (as opposed to "out of chamber", like the widely-available FoodSavers, or a "snorkel/nozzle attachment" which I am unfamiliar with entirely). I am in the market for a new vac sealer anyhow, as my little FoodSaver is over 10 years old and beginning to die. But since I have to buy a new appliance to even *try* some of these, I thought I'd ask around for input.

I'm starting to raise my own meat chickens, ducks, and rabbits in the next few years so I'd like to get a quality setup that has the ability to serve me if I want to sell/disburse meat and does not generate plastic waste.

Thanks yall
 
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thanks for the sources, someone gave me one of those vacuum sealers still in sealed box but I never even tried it because of my aversion to plastic.
I would also be interested in how well compostable sealing bags work.
 
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Sure thing, I hope it helps folks!

Its a hard place to find balance, as the extended shelf-life of goods frozen this way is really incredible and has a ton of value for an even remotely-frugal household. I haven't made any decisions yet on what setup I'm going to get but I'm pleased to have put all the resources I could find into one place
 
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Are these bags suitable for a Food Saver?

I read somewhere that these bags are not suitable for household vacuum sealers.

What I read said that they are suitable for use on commercial "in-chamber" vacuum machines with temperature adjustment.

It also seems to me that if they are compostable how long will these last in the freezer before they start to degrade?
 
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Yep, those are all things to consider. Most/all of them appear to not co-operate with the FoodSaver type of sealer. I don't know enough about the various kinds of sealers yet to understand precisely why one sort will work and another won't, but the "in-chamber" sort seem to be the most compatible with these kinds of bags, though one or two listed testing with vacuum sealers that have a hose. Most of them also noted that their freezer life expectancy is somewhere in the 1-2 year range I think, and largely they are not appropriate for Sous Vide-style cooking (heating meat in a vac sealed bag at long and low temps) due to deterioration. They also seem hit-or-miss with fully liquid foods, probably like broth and sauce and whatnot. I don't have the expertise to understand why yet.

In-chamber sealers are NOT CHEAP by any means.  But if its a setup that may last a family 10+ years, or for commercial use it might be worth it.
 
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I think we looked at "compostable" plastic substitutes in another thread. The conclusion was that they could only be composted in a commercial/municipal process that kept the heat and humidity very high for six months. A home composting system cannot do that.
 
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Bruce, I am not sure.

I remember reading some time ago about these bags.

At the time I thought it was a good idea when using to remove air from commercial packaging.  

What I was visioning was, let's say meat in a butcher shop.

A consumer will purchase the meat, use it then put the plastic wrap in the trash and when it gets picked up as garbage it will compost in the landfill.
 
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