• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • John F Dean
  • r ranson
  • Jay Angler
  • paul wheaton
stewards:
  • Pearl Sutton
  • Leigh Tate
  • Devaka Cooray
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Matt McSpadden
  • Jeremy VanGelder

Cobbing in Montana

 
Posts: 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Is cob construction suitable in Montana with it's cold winters? I was told that it wouldn't be wise to cob there.
 
gardener
Posts: 1177
Location: Wheaton Labs
757
3
foraging books wofati food preservation cooking fiber arts building writing rocket stoves wood heat woodworking
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I live in Texas and know zilch about cold climates, but from what I have heard cob is do-able in cold winters (although I don't know if there are better alternatives). The Cob Cottage Company is located in Oregon; their website might have some stuff that would be of use to you

https://www.cobcottage.com/
 
gardener
Posts: 501
Location: Victor, Montana; Zone 5b
228
hugelkultur forest garden composting toilet building rocket stoves
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Straw bale is generally favored over cob in cold climates, but don't let that stop you. If you have a nice area for passive solar heat I would even recommend it.

Where in Montana are you located, I have a cob house in the Bitterroot Valley and it is fine, but small so there isn't much space to heat. If you build small and with an efficient stove you should be fine, cob walls won't insulate you very well, but they can hold their heat. My house is around 400 square feet and is heated with a RMH stove with 20 feet of bench. In general the house likes to stay between 58-60 on really cold days, but the bench stays nice and toasty.
 
Posts: 76
Location: St. Ignatius, Montana, zone 5b
10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Daniel Ray wrote:Straw bale is generally favored over cob in cold climates, but don't let that stop you. If you have a nice area for passive solar heat I would even recommend it.

Where in Montana are you located, I have a cob house in the Bitterroot Valley and it is fine, but small so there isn't much space to heat. If you build small and with an efficient stove you should be fine, cob walls won't insulate you very well, but they can hold their heat. My house is around 400 square feet and is heated with a RMH stove with 20 feet of bench. In general the house likes to stay between 58-60 on really cold days, but the bench stays nice and toasty.



I assume this is about your house?  Bitterrot Star Article
 
Daniel Ray
gardener
Posts: 501
Location: Victor, Montana; Zone 5b
228
hugelkultur forest garden composting toilet building rocket stoves
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Yep, that is my house. If you are in the area it should be on the green homes tour this year hosted by Sustainable LiVing Systems out of Victor, I am on the board and will hopelly get it going this year.

I am also working on a bale, cob earthbag hybrid this year. Check out my blog in my signature if you want to see, also I'll be posting a dedicated forum on the projects section of permies soon.
 
Danette Cross
Posts: 76
Location: St. Ignatius, Montana, zone 5b
10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Has anyone made a cob oven here in Montana?  I want to build an outdoor kitchen with a lorena stove and perhaps a cob oven, but wonder if I will need to do it all out of stone!?
[edit]
I have been looking at making a castable fire clay mixture with perlite.  I think I can make a form and create the dome using this, then plaster it on the outside with a fireclay slurry.  Then perhaps just rock for the exterior....?
Refactory recipe
 
What do you have to say for yourself? Hmmm? Anything? And you call yourself a tiny ad.
Heat your home with the twigs that naturally fall of the trees in your yard
http://woodheat.net
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic