Topic of discussion: how women can figure out how to be involved in the infrastructure portion of permaculture. Because I am a fit, strong woman in her prime and power tools can still take me for a ride, not to mention I don't have the physical strength to be dragging logs around to build structures. When I need something build, I need to pay men. That requires monies. I'm great in the kitchen and the garden, but that limits how far I can take things on my own.
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
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Here's a book I got, but have not had to employ the ideas because not alone: https://www.amazon.com/Working-Alone-Tips-Techniques-Building/dp/1561585459
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Idle dreamer
K Putnam wrote:Websites? Books? Women out there with blogs? I'm open to suggestions.
Gardens in my mind never need water
Castles in the air never have a wet basement
Well made buildings are fractal -- equally intelligent design at every level of detail.
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Tyler Ludens wrote:
Pearl Sutton wrote:"oh yes! I am a homesteader! My husband does all the labor and I feed the chickens and cook dinner!!"
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Gardens in my mind never need water
Castles in the air never have a wet basement
Well made buildings are fractal -- equally intelligent design at every level of detail.
Bright sparks remind others that they too can dance
What I am looking for is looking for me too!
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Everyone learns what works by learning what doesn't work. Stephen Herrod Buhner
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elizabeth mae brown wrote:
I guess what I'm saying is you can't lump all women real or not or all men real or not into a monolithic group because people are intrinsically better at some things than others. So building things and using tools might be more difficult or more stressful if you're relying on a skill set that's not strong for you like body mechanics or being able to see a straight line.
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Derek Thille wrote:In my case, my wife always has been the primary breadwinner - at times I've struggled with this, but the end result is that, compared with the traditional divisions, I do more around the house to keep the household going.
I've long struggled with the concept of equality our society embraces at present. I do believe everyone should have equal opportunity. They shouldn't be limited in their options by limiting beliefs. That said, there are physical differences between men and women. Whatever attribute one wants to look at, there is a continuum for both, and there is certainly overlap but it remains biological that males of the human species tend to be bigger and stronger than females of the species. We do see that in some other species as well (one direction or the other). Pretending there are no differences is completely illogical - perhaps that is why I struggle with it.
I'd better stop before I get myself into too much (more) trouble....
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Josh Hoffman wrote:Struggling with a situation could be a product of an correctly informed or incorrectly informed conscience. There is a grey area going in spectrum from light grey to dark grey, of course.
There are many times around our place when my wife is "in the weeds" and I jump in to do something that she would typically do and vice versa. However, most of the times, we each do the things we are good at to compliment each other. Certain religious and secular groups categorize these things into the patriarchy, complementarianism egalitarianism. We probably fall into the complementarianism label in how we function. It would look "traditional" from outside viewership. If our roles were reversed, it would still be complementarian but not "traditional", you see.
If my wife would have married someone else or I would have, it may have looked different for each of us. I guess that is what I am stressing. there are patterns to be observed in people and nature. Generally, it takes 2 entities to produce fruit. However, there are some exceptions with self pollination, seahorses. etc. Same with us as individuals. I think you can observe these patterns and figure, generally, what the outcome may be. But do not discount the outliers. There are exceptions and they are to be respected and taken one at a time.
I try to make objective statements on these forums because I do not know you personally and, in my opinion, that (knowing you personally) would be what is needed for me to form much of a conclusion about anything. So my family and I take people/families "one at a time" so to speak.
I really enjoy the dialog on this forum and am thankful that so many people can share their opinions on any given matter.
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Greatest curse, greed
Derek Thille wrote:In case it clarifies things, part of my struggle is with some of the folks saying women are underrepresented in engineering, for example, so we need to spend money and jump through hoops and modify our education experiment to get more women in this profession, but these same people do not lament the lack of women bricklayers or plumbers, nor do they have any words regarding an "underrepresentation" of men in nursing. There's a level of hypocrisy in that.
"The only thing...more expensive than education is ignorance."~Ben Franklin
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." ~ Plato
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