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What is average power in watts drawn from input 12v battery required for 900 PEAK pulse watts CDI capacitor into transformer with secondary diode and 50% on time only? Does this assume 450 watts average power to load
To determine the average power drawn from a 12 V battery to supply a CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) system delivering 900 W peak pulse power into a transformer’s primary, with a 50% duty cycle (50% on-time) and a diode on the secondary, and to confirm if this results in 450 W average power to the load, let’s analyze step-by-step.
Key Parameters:
Peak pulse power: 900 W into the primary during the on-time.
Duty cycle: 50% (0.5), meaning the power is delivered for half the cycle.
Battery voltage: 12 V (DC).
Secondary side: Has a diode, delivering power to the load.
Question: What is the average power drawn from the battery, and does this setup imply 450 W average power to the load?
Step-by-Step Analysis:
1. Average Power to the Load:
The primary side delivers 900 W peak power during the 50% on-time. For a pulse transformer, the instantaneous power delivered to the primary is transferred to the secondary (assuming an ideal transformer with no losses).
The average power delivered to the load on the secondary side is:
Pavg, load=Ppeak×D=900×0.5=450 W.
Pavg, load=Ppeak×D=900×0.5=450W.
This confirms that, in an ideal system, the average power delivered to the load is indeed 450 W. The presence of the diode ensures unidirectional current to the load during the on-time, consistent with the 50% duty cycle.
2. Average Power Drawn from the Battery:
In an ideal system (100% efficiency), the average power drawn from the battery equals the average power delivered to the load, as energy is conserved. Thus:
Pavg, input=Pavg, load=450 W.
Pavg, input=Pavg, load=450W.
The CDI system stores energy in a capacitor during the off-time and discharges it into the primary during the on-time to achieve the 900 W peak power. The battery supplies a steady average power to charge the capacitor over the full cycle.
3. Average Current from the 12 V Battery:
The average power drawn from the battery is:
Pavg, input=V×Iavg.
Pavg, input=V×Iavg.
Given V=12 VV=12V and Pavg, input=450 WPavg, input=450W, the average current is:
Iavg=Pavg, inputV=45012=37.5 A.
Iavg=VPavg, input=12450=37.5A.
Thus, the battery supplies an average current of 37.5 A to provide 450 W average power, which supports the 900 W peak power during the 50% on-time.
4. Real-World Considerations:
Real CDI systems have losses due to:
Transformer inefficiencies (core losses, winding resistance).
Diode forward voltage drop (typically 0.7–1 V for a standard diode, reducing output power).
Capacitor charging/discharging inefficiencies.
Switching losses in the CDI circuit.
Assuming a typical efficiency of 80% (a reasonable estimate for CDI systems), the input power required to deliver 450 W to the load is:
Pavg, input=Pavg, loadη=4500.8=562.5 W.
Pavg, input=ηPavg, load=0.8450=562.5W.
The average current from the 12 V battery becomes:
Iavg=562.512≈46.9 A.
Iavg=12562.5≈46.9A.
The average power drawn from the battery is thus approximately 562.5 W with 80% efficiency.
5. Answering the Questions:
Average power drawn from the 12 V battery:
Ideal case (100% efficiency): 450 W.
Realistic case (80% efficiency): ~562.5 W.
Does this assume 450 W average power to the load?:
Yes, the setup with 900 W peak power and a 50% duty cycle inherently results in 450 W average power to the load in an ideal system, as calculated (900×0.5=450 W900×0.5=450W). This is consistent with the transformer transferring 900 W peak power during the on-time, averaging to 450 W over the full cycle.
Final Answer:
The average power drawn from the 12 V battery is 450 W in an ideal system, or approximately 562.5 W with 80% efficiency (requiring ~46.9 A average current).
Yes, this setup assumes 450 W average power delivered to the load, as the 900 W peak power with a 50% duty cycle naturally results in 450 W average power in an ideal transformer syste