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Can someone identify this grape vine?

 
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Hello,

About two years ago I did a trial planting of a vine here in South-East Madagascar, and it performed quite well.

The issue is that I don’t know exactly which species it is.

Would anyone be able to help identify it if I share some photos?

Thank you in advance for your help.
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Looks like a grapevine to me!

Maybe Vitis labrusca, the fox grape, or a hybrid such as Concord grape? Or the common Vitis vinifera? I do not know my different grapes particularly well but have seen a few different kinds.
 
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Yes, not easy to know M Ljin! I thought of a kind of "muscat" grape, but I am amazed by its growth in 2 years, especially in Madagascar!!!
I'll check out the species you mention
 
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Alix,

Have you seen/tasted any grapes yet?
Please provide an image of a leaf, aiming the camera perpendiculary to the leaf. A few such images may help in identification as they will present the average shape.
 
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Hello Cristobal,

Nope, never seen nor tasted,

Here are the pictures I've got.
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Alix,

I'm sorry for delayed reply.
The leaf shape does not resemble anything I grow: seven different muscats and few wine varietals.
The leaves resemble Vitis californica and also my St George rootstock, so it's telling me that there is a chance that your grape may be something that got "reverted' to its ancestral gene pool - either a rootstock that took over the scion or a seedling. Most grape rootstock will not produce anything edible. Grapevine this large should already have some fruits. If it does not produce something within a year I would consider chopping it and grafting with a known varietal - easier say than do as I'm 100% unsuccessful in field grafting in my climate.
 
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